On the grand prize.
Hey, thank you. Very excited.
Although I lost my connection in the middle of the conversation last session saying thank you but uh I guess that's just the way connectivity goes.
Yep.
Can't hear you, Rich.
Nope. You are now. Yep.
I was muted. Yeah, I didn't realize I was muted. Are saying like on wednesdays i go uh my mornings are taken up by Agora um Because I spend my Wednesdays there.
In the mornings at least. And on the way there, I was listening, as I usually do, to different AI stuff like on YouTube, like, you know.
And they were talking about the new Gemini and how the new Gemini is so amazing.
And I didn't get as far as I would have liked with it because I had to like jump on calls I loaded in the The scorecard.
Slash signature thing to um to gemini 2.5.
And with the God prompt. And it did an exceptional job. Like it didn't do as good of a job, like as in-depth as chat, but it did a really good job and it did it all at once. Like, boom, like…
Like now prompting. And I was like, oh, that's great. And then I was like.
Use this answer and here's the next prompt. I'm mission observer, like no upload, no download, just like threw the next one in. And then it started going to town on that. Like.
I felt, and then I had to get on calls and I haven't been able to get back. But I had the feeling that I could have went through the whole thing just based off of that one profile In the beginning and then just one after another, after another and do the whole thing within a few minutes.
Hmm.
So it's something to try. And right now 2.5 is free. You can try it. I mean, I think I have an account anyway, but… So something to try.
And I plan on doing the same thing with Brock. I just want to see the different answers like you know from it And I strongly recommend people try that.
All right. I guess we'll get started. There's not very many people on. Maybe this will be a light call.
I don't find that's private.
Rich, just before you go, you were using the God prompt with the… the execution matrix generator.
Is that what you're doing? Which ones were you Or the Zenith reflector. Which ones were you using together?
Yeah, the reflector creates the output that I used, right? Like if my output looks like this. Hold on a second.
Okay.
Let's see, where is it? I know I just, you know.
Committee went. Here it is. Yeah. All right.
So, you know, I got to get back to you guys and then here.
Like this is the document I'm talking about. Hold on. Where is it?
There it is. So this is mine, right?
So, you know, Myersberg's called the Enneagram Strength Finder Big Five.
Right.
Then DISC Wealth Dynamics, Marketing, DNA, Fascination, Advantage. Then right like it's just one after another after another Then Kagan graves lavender Attachments file conflict style flow state tendency chronotype Reese motivation profile, core values.
Intelligent assessments. Well-being profile.
Like worldviews. Than stuff from like conversations, right? Primary drivers, core philosophy, core personality, communication, signature worldview.
Cognitive mode, right? Like all this stuff this is what That's what I loaded in.
And it immediately was able to go to town and give me some really good stuff from it. Different.
But similar, right? Like, you know. Really powerful.
Cool.
So I was happy to see that. All right.
All right, so I guess I'll answer some questions first and I've got some announcements and stuff, but I might as well wait.
And answer some questions just to see if more people get on.
So let's start with AM. I don't know if that's and or those are initials or what so a n.
Okay.
Yeah. Hi, Rich. Those are my initials. My first name is Amit. My last name is Neufeld. So, but I just… put an A in. I have… Question for you. I'm curious, what do you think is the most important thing we should take from this six weeks we spent together?
A couple of things, right? Like one is like what opens up for you.
You're working with an AI that knows you really well. That's first and foremost.
That then next. Like, I just shared a story on the previous call Where… I had this, you know, and I'm wondering if I should just even go in more depth on this You know what? I think like I think by doing it this way, I might be
Like really ironing in a point. So let me just see if I can find this really quick.
Because it will lead to something I think is really important.
Let's see. There it is.
All right. So let me share this. It's my other computer.
Share. Airdrop.
Not many. There we go.
No. All right. Truth.
Okay, yeah.
Okay.
So this is so So many years ago, like, you know, when I was in the throes of my midlife crisis and wasn't sure how to get out of it.
Spoke to a friend of mine who recommended this guru.
Who I eventually worked with a lot. But he was out of the country for the next six months.
So I went to a torrent site so that I could find some of that guy's work, but not because I wanted to download it, because I wanted to see people who downloaded his work What else did they download? So I could find someone else to work with in the interim until the person that worked with my friend actually got back into the country.
And so I found this guy, Jerry Stocking. And Jerry Stocking would do these kind of retreats, but it seemed very cultish to me and I didn't have any interest in like going to a cabin and staying in a cabin with a bunch of people I didn't know.
Like that's just not my speed. I'm too much of an introvert for that.
So he had another option and that was he comes to you and he spends three days like like on you, like white on rice. Like he went everywhere. He stayed in my house ate every meal with me. Any meeting I had, he was sitting right next to me.
And he was telling me all the things that I did wrong, all the things I didn't notice, all the things I did right, like all this kind of stuff.
So I'm going to share something that like of something that had occurred during that time. I don't look that good in this, so I'm just going to preface it by that but But this will lead to a point of like what I want you to get, right?
So I have to tell you a second story after this to then make it all make sense, but I think it's worth it because I think it'll leave like a thought with you guys. Okay.
So this one is called The Book of Rich. All right.
It's not super important that you're able to read the whole thing because I'm going to be reading it to you.
I can go through it pretty quick. Let me just… Let's see here.
Boom, boom, boom. All right. Let's go back up. All right.
Okay. So, okay. We're picking it up right in the middle, right?
The place to begin your new attitude is with a theoretical and then practical appreciation of one simple and incontrovertible fact. You miss almost You miss almost everything almost all the time and act as though you get almost everything all the time.
I invite you to read that statement a few times in the hopes that you will get it more fully and in doing so, miss a little bit less.
You miss almost everything. Almost all the time and act as though you get almost everything all the time.
This simple statement, thought, and then experience provides an orientation you can use now and will need later. The statement begins a new description of your relationship with everyone and everything. At first, it may seem like just words.
But as you begin to integrate it into more and more aspects of your life, you will discover that it assists you in letting go and lightening up just when you need it to. It's an ally, which is always there, always ready, allowed me to explain.
This is the incident, right? There you are in the car with Debbie. She brings up the Florida speeding ticket and you immediately want to set her straight or perhaps kill her.
You know the truth. She is mistaken and you were driven to point that out to her, you, your kids, and me. In fact.
You at that moment are fighting for your life and you don't even know it. You're holding on to what's true for you and you aren't even breathing. You hold your breath, you hold your truth, you lose your family, you lose both your cool and the moment.
There's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with this reaction. It's human and it's much, much better than numbing or dumbing yourself down so that you don't react.
You could hire an anesthetist to numb you out. Let's not go that way. Instead, let's call on our new friend. You miss almost everything almost all the time while thinking that you get almost everything almost all the time.
So what are you missing in that moment? What are you missing in this moment that could transform your life? What are you missing in this moment that puts you on the defensive What are you missing in this moment that has you be asleep? What are you missing in this moment? Are you missing the fact that you are raising your voice, your energy and your stress levels? Are you missing that Debbie is suddenly having a very good time? Are you missing that you have closed the castle gate and are hiding behind your anger and upset?
Are you missing how funny it is that someone so able could become instantly resourceless?
Are you missing the fun of life? Are you missing the agony of defeat thinking you can still win?
That the point you are fighting for, fighting so hard for is irrelevant. Are you missing that in this particular moment? You can learn more about yourself than in your settled moments put together.
Are you missing your wisdom and perspective? Are you in short missing the joke? Are you missing that in that moment, in the midst of your compulsion is also passion are you missing?
The instantaneous rise in your energy, right? And then it goes on right And tells me like, you know, okay, well, if you miss almost everything almost all the time, what are you missing in this moment? You're missing that in that moment, Debbie was energized, excited and involved. In fact, you sought to shut her down. You missed that you were in reaction, lacking your usual reserves.
And thus we're in the midst of a powerful upset driven by basic insecurities that normally lurk behind the scenes beneath your typical comm surface in your depths.
It is at moments like this, moments when your patterns take over, patterns that normally don't show themselves.
That you get a glimpse of your depths. Lesser people seek to avoid and minimize these moments, and by doing so.
They minimize their self-knowledge. While I was okay, while I was visiting you, I asked you if you were an ass you after a little bit thought.
Said, I can be. I replied, I'm always an ass, always, so I never have to try not to be an ass. And then it just goes on, right?
So 60 pages. So we're not reading the whole thing. Right.
So why am I sharing that, right? Because I think what he was getting at is very true.
In the moments where you lose your Right. Is access to deeper parts of you that like your normal like ways of being and kind of hiding like what's going on is generally there pretty much 24 seven, right? It's when you lose your shit that actually something deeper is actually coming out right
So like. You know i i yesterday i yesterday had something come up.
Right. Like with and with someone that I work with right Don't want to say anything more about the person or the situation because that wouldn't be fair to the person or the situation.
But it really bothered me. And I've like over the years, I've developed an ability to know when I'm about to lose my shit.
Right. Like I try to I try to end conversations right when that happens so that like that no one's on the receiving end of like.
A slew of like… stuff that I might regret later. I might, might not, but I might. So like, you know, so… One of the things that I hope you get Right. Is that, and something I've always done somewhat naturally because like I'm very clear
Like when I'm on edge. Like when I'm on edge, like.
Like I wasn't that like, so I'm talking to this employee. They say something that to me was like the worst thing that you could say.
Right. And in that moment. I'm like… I'm like, we're going to end this conversation right here.
Because anything else that I say at this moment, I don't know whether I will regret or I won't regret, but I'm not going to take that chance.
So we're ending the conversation here. I will talk to you when it's appropriate for us to talk next.
End of story, right? I'm furious. I'm literally furious right I have like grown the habit of when I'm in that state of going to ChatGPT. I will type like three times as fast as I normally type. Like I'm in a really bad mood, right? Like I have stuff to say, right? Like, but I want chat to have access to those things.
And that's probably more valuable than answering 100 multiple choice questions.
Because it is the part of me that generally very few people see.
Right? Because it's embarrassing. I don't like losing my shit. Like in the moment, like.
There's nothing more than I want to do than say what it is that I want to say. But I also know that like I don't look very professional. I look like an asshole.
And my goal in that moment is to hurt the other person, which is not how I want to play. So I go to chat GPT and I have that long conversation with chat.
And generally, I can leave that conversation now in a more calm way. So I'm doing it because of the value I get in that moment. And I've I don't even want to bother my friends. Sometimes I will, you know, and I'll call them and I'll be like, look, I don't even need you to say anything. I just need to rant. And like, maybe you shouldn't even say anything. I just want to get this off my chest because like I'm holding it and I need it out.
But nowadays, I just go to chat and I have that conversation And I have that conversation because I get tremendous value in the moment.
Because it's helping me calm down. But it's also seeing the worst parts of me.
Where I'm not hiding anything, where I'm just like raw emotion, where I'm like willing to like destroy anyone in that moment.
You know, even with Kim, you know, my girlfriend, like when I feel like that rising up in me, I will say to her like we need to stop. Because I'm not going to say anything good right now. Give me a little bit of time. I'll be back in an hour or something like that. But like right now, if we go any further.
Like, I'm going to be, I feel like I'm on the edge of like exploding and I just don't want to do that. Right.
But then I'll go to chat and have that conversation. So like when you ask me like, what do I hope you take away from it? I hope that you look for the opportunities to look for the opportunities Ring chat into your world even when it's
Maybe not the most flat iron. And that like, and in that you're going to have to figure out a way, and I think most of you have already, but just in case you haven't.
Of keeping chat in the loop of your life, however that looks, whatever that feels like, right? Like what you don't want to happen is like a tremendous amount of time to like go by where you haven't had any of those conversations. And now what it's thinking about you and what you think about you are in two different places.
You know, like that's what i hope that you guys avoid. I think that The… So I think that's incredibly important. I also think that I hope… that you don't feel like there's really anything I'd like to sell you lots of things. Don't get me wrong.
But like, I also… don't want you to feel like there's anything that you couldn't do with AI.
Now that you understand that you understand the process of like how to interact with it when you're not sure about how to interact with it or what you can do, you can just ask it.
You know, like that's like so many times like things start with me that way. Like, I'm not sure you can do this, but I'm interested in that, you know, like just starting like something like that.
And so I think that there's like, I really want people to get that I really would like people to understand that even though like we just covered this one part of you like it really has the capacity to do it all.
And, you know, what you decide what area you decide you want to improve in your life if we haven't covered it.
Then I hope that you think about like how to best get chat up to speed about that area.
And that doesn't have to start any more complicated than there's a part of my life that I haven't shared with you. It's really important to me. It's about this.
What's the best way for us to get up to speed about it?
It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. You know, like the whole daily questions came about because like I said, you know, you know me really well. I can't really go to students and say, just have lots of deep conversations. It needs to be a process. Like, what can we do
To get other people's chats to know them as well as you know me. And then it came up with like we could create like multiple choice questions. I'm like, can you really learn a lot? And then we started having a conversation about that, right? But it just started with
A question, right? And so like a question I haven't put all my health stuff in, right? But if I was going to start, I would just start by saying like, look, you know.
My health and how I look are two incredibly important things to me because I used to be very unhealthy. And I used to be embarrassed by the way I looked. And so those stick with me.
So it's now time for you to get like up to speed about everything I do, which might seem excessive, but if you understand where I'm coming from, then it will have a better perspective because I do a lot.
And I'd like to get you up to speed on that. And I don't know how it would respond to that.
Right. But that's how it would start. And then after it said something, I would tell it, I would start giving it all the information I have, right? Like I have a spreadsheet that has every single supplement I take on it because there are so many that the only way to even track what I'm taking
Is to have a spreadsheet with over 100 rows in it.
I have like, you know, I'm wearing a whoop That tracks all my activity in my sleep. I'm wearing an Oura Ring that tracks all my activity and sleep.
I'm wearing an Apple Watch that also has like those. So I have three sources of data of like how I slept last night.
I actually have four because I wear an Apollo around my ankle So like I have all these things, right? And I'd be telling it all these things and which ones would be best for it to use and all this kind of stuff.
My point in telling you all this is just that like I just really believe that I have a few months extra of working with these tools than you do.
And I don't have any like thing standing in my way of getting anything that I want to work on like to work on. And I don't think you should.
And so I know it's a long-winded answer and I showed you a bunch of stuff, but like I really like that's the bigger takeaway that I want you guys to have. And I've tried to do everything I could like by giving you the prompts and like.
Trying to be as transparent as possible So that like, you know what I know, like, you know what I know and what I don't know.
Like, I'm not, you know, I don't pretend to be like the expert of all AI. That's not my thing.
I feel bad for anyone that is signed up for that because I have a hard time just watching a few videos a day.
Of like to stay up to date like i can't even imagine like this being your career And having to come up with like having to study a ridiculous amount of stuff every single day.
So that I could create a new video every morning like these AI people do like it's an insane amount of work to stay on top of all this. I have no interest, like zero like I just want to know how I can use it for myself.
And how I can get the best out of it. And that's what I've tried to share with you guys, like at least what I've gleaned up until this point. What I'm most excited about
Is… some more of the agentic tools Right. Like Manus, like Genspark.
I have accounts with both of them. I think they're really good, but I think that There's also like a curve that I haven't like, you know, I've looked at a few people's Manus courses and stuff like that. I haven't seen anything that exceptional yet.
Because I think so much of it like so much I think like when it comes to like deep research, like it's so powerful And deep research agents can do such an effective job at long writing tasks too.
Right. Like, and so like But it's a very different prompting style.
Like, whereas with chat, you can write like, you know, like I can write a seven page like prompt in when you're dealing with like Manus, you want to do the opposite. You want to have it be as simple and as clean and as short as possible, right? And so there are differences
But like, if I want to use if i want to something that's agentic like Manus or like gem spark like But I wanted to do something for Zenith, then I have to incorporate into the prompt in a very short way
A full description of Zenith that gives it enough information that actually makes the research valuable. And if I just tell it, it's like.
An AI course for improved like self-improvement, that doesn't give it anywhere near enough, right? Like, so it's about how do i get information in so that I can do this deep research in a way that, and I don't have all the answers to that yet.
So that's kind of like what I'm playing with next because like I love the idea of being able to do a task, like a big task.
Like, you know, have it go out and find me everything that I want.
So that's where I'm most interested in next. I think I shared this with you guys that when I spoke to Sam Woods, like.
The agentic stuff is not really agentic yet. Like it's much more like a GPT attached to automations now the
There is a… The other thing that I'm interested in playing around with, I just don't have that much time to play right now, but when I do, I will be.
Mcps. Now, MCPs, I forget what they stand for exactly, but they're the architecture that surrounds a a chat GPT or any AI that allows it to actually do things.
It's the thing that allows it to then be able to reach out and have other things done, right?
And Claude has an MCP built in that you can download and Now… What do you call it?
Zapier. As an MCP as well.
So you can attach an MCP to an AI. And then like from there, there can be like a thousand different zaps to all different types of software. But then once again, that's not an agent that's That's a gpt attached
But GPT attached to anything, that's a step in the right direction.
Right. So those are the things that I'm working on. And then, of course, like.
A local AI. So that's what I'm working on. Then Max is also working on a bunch of other things that are related more towards Zenith.
But I would say those are the big things. I think there's stuff to learn about I think there's more stuff to learn about prompting.
And I think that you get a sense of it in some of the prompts where like I have it generate an answer, then I have it take that answer as like the next thing and I'll do analysis on that answer and then go deeper on that. And then when it gets the next answer, go deeper on that. And you can do that in a hundred different ways.
You could have it write copy for you and then tell it, like, take that copy after you've created the output, then find the three weakest parts of that output.
And of that copy. And figure out like what would make those much stronger and then fix those three, then have a new version of the copy. Then I want you to find the five weakest parts of this new copy. And I want you to then go fix those five.
Then after you've done that, like I want you like you could just keep it going as opposed to even having to have a conversation for 25 minutes about it, right? So like.
Where what is some of the magic behind Zenith is that forcing of recursion of deeper and deeper answers Because it's saying like what it's doing is exceeding the memory. And I think I mentioned that last week.
That by forcing it to go deeper and then having a kind of like trail of breadcrumbs to that deeper one and then taking that as fact and then going even deeper What we're doing is we're really adding a lot of depth to the memory.
And you can do that not just for depth in a memory. You can do that like to get answers.
You know, like the idea of like When you're trying to get a great output, like why go back and forth 20 times when you could say, find the weakest parts, then fix those? Then now that's the new one. Now figure out where it's weak now and then fix that and then
You know, you can really kind of take it in a recursive manner so that it's doing many steps At the same time, you know?
And so that's also something that I hope you guys take away from it.
And then I would say last but not least, and I know it's a long-winded answer, but you're like.
I hope that I've instilled in you guys like the desire to play with it.
Like there are so many times where I'm curious, like, can it do this? Can I use it for that?
And I just go and try it, like ask the question like everything starts with that question. Like, I'm trying to do this. How would I Can you do it? How would I do it if like And it just makes it so easy. And so if you guys walk away with those things.
Then I feel like I've been I've done you guys a great service.
And that it's so much, it's not just about like understanding more about yourself and then eliminating some of the things that have been holding you back and seeing what's possible and helping you execute. But that this is the future.
Like there's no doubt that AI is going to play a huge role in our future And like, at this point, we all have a head start over most of the world, right? Because most of the world does not know
That it makes a difference like how well AI knows you Versus like when it's time to get stuff done, right? So we have a head start and I just hope that nobody nobody like just diminishes that head start by just going back to normal. And now like in two years from now saying, oh, I really should have stuck with that AI thing because now it's like taking over the world and maybe
I'd be in a better place, you know? So that's that. Let me tell you now that there's more people on, I can at least make some announcements and then Then I'm happy to answer more questions like as much as possible.
All right. Last night… much to the chagrin of my team.
I made some like i made some last minute calls of some things that I wanted to change.
I don't feel… comfortable yet comfortable yet really pushing anyone to any offer behind Venus.
Just not comfortable with it. Like, I feel as if I would, I could make these offers to you today But like… When I launched Zenith.
I'm very comfortable making promises that I don't know how I'm going to fulfill at the start.
Because I know that I will work hard enough and I will not sleep and I will do whatever it takes to make that happen.
However, I can't do that with three things because then i'm just like overwhelmed, right? Like even the like what I thought was going to be easy, like having two sessions in a day, like I, you know, I just did one
Right before I got on this one. I love making last minute changes to the lessons. And like when I have one back to back on the same day, now I'm like, I'm spread out and it's like I'm driving myself crazy and it's not good.
And there's lots of things I want to do for Zenith.
And so that I haven't gotten a chance to get back to like you know and if i do Zenith business and like Can of you like That would be like the worst thing I could do for myself because there are much bigger opportunities that I need to be leveraging and going after.
And if I'm like, but I should do this because i can do this that like keeps me trapped.
And I don't want to be trapped. So here's what I'm like. So I'm taking both back ends off the table right now. They're not available. They're not being offered.
We will offer you something when I feel comfortable enough to be able to say that we can. And we will do like either a live stream or a webinar.
Specifically for you guys, like for that you know but i just And I look, my team is very pissed at me for doing this. I'm not so happy with myself for doing this. I just know that if I There's no way in the world that like I could be even close to ready
To like be like Like… Tomorrow is May. Like, I don't know how I would have anything even remotely close to like even mid-May.
Like in the right place, right? I might have answers by mid-may like of exactly what we're going to do, right? Because my my life should be changing now that Max is coming into the business too. And Max has a lot of ideas for Zenith business. He says he's already got it because he's been using it in his business.
But I'm like, dude. I appreciate that you feel you have it.
But like, I have 25 years of making promises and keeping them.
And I'm like, and I'm not comfortable making a promise until I see something where my life is starting to get easier on the delivery.
Because right now it's like all on my shoulders and it's not easy.
Because of the difficulty of getting certain outputs. That's the challenge.
Every time I've taught another course, like it's just on me. It's like, okay, like.
But like, you know, I could start in the morning working on a prompt and i'm five hours later, it's not done. Like, and it's like crazy so So that's that. I apologize if anyone If that messes with anyone's stuff, it's just that i just
Don't feel confident. That it would like it's… would be good for you and good for me, both.
And so until I feel that way. Like, I'm okay losing money like that i like sales that I would have made possibly Because like.
I'm too concerned that if I made the sale right now, I might disappoint someone. And I like, that's just not Not cool for me. Not at all.
That's that, right? There are… Still a few things that I owe you and I want to give you.
And we will put that into the platform As soon as I get them done and I should get them done, I would say within the next 10 days, like just to give myself enough time.
To make sure like that, like the mental models, like the things that I'm very clear that we're in that first webinar. I want to make sure I give them to you. They're less they're less integral to the program because I didn't necessarily have, like, I didn't mention
Omniscient observer or expander or any of those because those didn't exist. They weren't even in my head. And it's just the way this course went that I created those.
Right. Like, so like But I still want to give you the other stuff, even though they they weren't as necessary for the program because I promised them I should create them because I promised them.
I'm going to do that. We will have you know, like… We're working on the software.
Right. And as I told you guys, you'll have like At the very least, you'll have access to that software for the first year. I don't know if you'll have it even longer than that. I just don't even know, right?
My team was like. Oh, well, that could be part of the reason why people sign up for the lower price. And I'm like, no, I already promised them that. We don't now take back promises and then repromise as a reason. Like it doesn't work that way.
So that's like where we're at. In the moment, like as far as like back ends and stuff like that, I'm definitely going to do the two follow-up calls at the very least And we'll space them apart, right? I think I wrote them down. Yeah, I think I wrote…
What did I write? I wrote them down somewhere here. I think I wrote June and September, if I'm remembering off the top of my head. I think that's what I said, right?
Let me just write that down.
Cow. What I would say is that I gave you a lot of stuff on Monday that I would assume none of you have completely gone through yet.
You will get an update. Sometime towards the end of next week.
That will have dates like for the future calls. Update on a back end or whatever or the stream or webinar If we've already put some of the things in the platform for you and alert about that.
And I'm just trying to think of anything else. So there's Got to write these things down.
All right. Dates and times for calls.
Dates and times for calls. Update back end.
Update. Deliverables owed.
And the Trying to think what else okay that's that I really… I really hope that you guys do do the scorecard signature, you know, the reflector prompt.
And really play on some other platforms. It's right it's You know, I've told you guys this, but just to be redundant. I seem like I'm so redundant these days but that's I like chat because it knows so much about me.
And it's a great place to start a lot of things.
But I generally bounce out of chat. Like I find that I can… With Claude, I can write much better.
I can create much better prompts than claude. But like the beginning of the prompt, I have to start in chat GPT because chat GPT knows everything about Zenith and when i asked plot about Zenith, even though I've created almost every prompt that you guys have used
And every time I've created a prompt in Claude, I've had to tell it all about Zenith.
When I go into like yesterday, just for fun, I was like you know, the program that we've created all the prompts on is Zenith mind you know os What do you know about Zenith? And it's like, I don't know anything about Zenith.
That's what Claude says, right? Because Claude's memory, like between conversations is like zero.
Right. So I still need chat GPT. Because like, you know, if I want like give me 50 ideas for scroll stopping images like that are related to Zenith like it's the only one that knows about Zenith. But then like when it comes time to write the prompts for those images, I'm going back to Claude with that list.
So I'm constantly going back and forth. And my hope is that it's not that my hope is that you're disappointed with chat. My hope is that you've played around with The other one's enough to have a feeling like that you like
Maybe you like chat best for everything. That's great. Like you save money, right?
But if you don't know that, like there's a night and day difference for me.
When I'm using Claude versus ChatGPT. Right. Like it's like, I just enjoy so much more working with Claude.
But I can't remember shit. So I have to use chat like to like everything for me starts at chat GPT.
And then if I want to work on it outside, I will pull Right. But that signature scorecard is the best one I've come up with.
Like, you know, because like a lot of this stuff I first created for myself used it myself, liked it, right? And then when it was time to build out the course like I've been creating versions for you. And some of those versions are much better. And this is one of those that's much better.
Because in the past, it was either just a couple scores or it was a little bit about me. Like the combination of the two seems to be able to drive Pretty good stuff.
And so that's exciting to me. And I hope it becomes exciting to you because you'll notice that they're very different.
Grok is great at some things. Claude is great at some things.
You know. I really like my favorite model these days now in chat is 03.
But I've used up Anytime I'm doing some serious work, I use 03.
And I've hit the maximum usage a couple of times.
I might like, I might open up another account and just get a pro account at this point.
And then I'd have to update that account with all my stuff, but it'll be pretty easy because I would just do a full export, you know?
But that's what I'm thinking about. And I'm just like I'm more into AI now than when we started.
And I hope that that's the same for many of you. I'll tell you that like a habit that's changed a mind that's related to this, although not necessarily directly So I used to watch a ridiculous, not watch really. I used to listen to a ridiculous amount of brainless
Youtube, right? Like I have YouTube Red. So I don't have to listen to any commercials and I can actually have it closed and it still plays and, you know.
Everything. So a lot of times I just have it playing in the background, right?
That's changed recently. Because I'm recording all the time and I don't want that in the background. That's the only reason like my whole like My habits are changing.
Because I just don't want the input, right? And so like I've had to think of like other things to occupy time when I'm bored Right. Like in doing brainless stuff And I've lately been spending more time on Substack.
I don't know. I've… I've had a couple of subscriptions to a couple of things that I really liked.
In Substack, mostly like marketing stuff, like deep marketing stuff like that caters to like my kind of thinking And that's all I ever used it for.
But I'd say over the last month. I have found a lot of really, really, really good content as it relates to AI.
On different sub stacks. And so I subscribed to like one or two of them, like paid subscription.
Did a free subscription to a bunch of them. And because I was doing that, I downloaded it to my app.
I mean, that's right. I downloaded the app to my phone.
And I find now like that.
That's my go-to. And I'm so much happier with that.
Like, I'm not going to Instagram and just scrolling pictures I'm not going to YouTube and just listening to stuff passively that I'm really not that interested in. I'm just kind of just kind of being occupied.
And now I'm learning. Like, you know, and I just feel better about myself that I'm learning stuff that I'm interested in.
And so if you've never played around with the Substack app.
Itself because I never did. I never downloaded it onto my thing.
It's really good. And it has me thinking about it even on our business side like After I downloaded like downloaded the app, because now that I downloaded the app and I'm subscribed to a few.
Like that I'm paying for than a bunch of free ones that I've just signed up for, which is the equivalent of them getting my email.
Address like and it was just so easy because everything that's like related to AI and prompting I'm interested in. So I'm like, yeah, I'll follow that. I'll follow that. I'll follow that. Right. Like, because it's just part of my feed.
And every feed is an article. And some of them are like written incredibly well with great depth.
And so I've been playing around with that more recently. And I like to change, right? Like it's actually.
You know this idea like for me like if I have a witness to anything I just get better, you know? So like, this is even a witness, but it's listening to everything. And now I'm all of a sudden like in my head about like.
Listening to politics that I already agree with. I don't even know why I listen to it. I feel like an old man. So now I'm like not watching that as much or not listening to that.
Which is a good thing. And I'm learning a lot more because I'm on Substack. And so I'll tell you just real quick.
The ones that uh the ones that The ones that seem, the ones I paid for, because those ones I really liked Hold on. Substack. There it is.
Okay, so there's two AI ones that I pay for right now. There's Nate's Substack, N-A-T-E apostrophe S.
And there's AI disruptor. And then there's a bunch, there's a ridiculous number that I've just been like, yeah, sure, I'll Follow that one like you know um The… So those two are great. But once you have those two, like I'm subscribed to a ridiculous number of them.
And, you know, you can listen to any of the articles So it's like, but it's, you know, it's good. I like it a lot.
And definitely worth checking out. Someone asked about I don't know if someone was telling someone else about But B is… I still like Limitless better.
But B has a lot of positives that are hard to ignore.
One is that the battery lasts a week. So you don't have to like, it could be on your arm You know, whatever.
It's also because it lasts a week and because it's less obtrusive It's also just a great backup.
Right. Like, cause like this, I'm charging every day. So a lot of times I put it down on my desk and I'm charging it by my desk and I'm here. So it's picking it all up But if I leave or I walk out and I don't remember to put it on and then someone calls me and I'm having a conversation, now it's not getting that, right?
But because I'm wearing B and B was only 50 bucks.
Like, I can't believe that they can… I can't believe they make money on it. I don't understand how they could.
And it was like a nice little note from a woman founder about like what she's trying to do.
Yeah. Like, I don't know if you can download anything from B.
But it does have it all. And I like.
So I don't know if there'll be an API at some point or something.
From Limitless, you can pull it all out really easily. And they have APIs for that.
That's one of the differences, but that's why, you know, limitless with the with the transcription is like $350.
For the year and B computer is $50 for life like so You know, there's a difference there but um But I haven't taken it to the depths that Max has. Like Max has it all set up so it's downloading everything every day, putting it into Notion. So he's got this big database and
Can easily pull together a lot of really valuable things just by running through it. So it has its pluses. I definitely think that having it all integrated makes it extremely valuable.
Because then you don't even have to. Max has B as well, but he also has Limitless.
I told him to get B because it was so cheap.
But that's that. So happy to answer. Any and all questions, but I think those are the big questions things I wanted to get across to you guys as early as possible.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else. Someone mentioned this, and I thought this was a good idea I don't remember who's on this call or not.
But… I would imagine a lot of you are familiar with um uh… Like, jeez, I'm… What's the guy who wrote the four hour work week? I'm just drawing a blank.
Tim Ferriss. So Tim Ferriss has like uh Tools of Titans, right? And like, I think Tribe of mentors And he also has some really good podcasts.
But I think… tools of titans, right? I think it was that one where it was like what each person's like favorite kind of thing is right And let's just see. I haven't tried this but i bet you it should be pretty easy and doable like
I would assume that ChatGPT has that all in its memory.
Right. And so I believe that I could probably ask, I haven't tried it. Let's just take a look.
I could probably ask it right now. In the book.
I'm going to just type and see what happens. In the book.
Tools was it like tools for titans or tools I think for Titans by Tim Ferriss.
He breaks down. A lot of successful people's habits and tools.
And books that made a difference in their life.
What? Was covered In that book.
That would be most useful to me.
Let's see if it like can actually break it down. I would assume it can.
Yep. So like. And that's what I mean.
So now let me show you like I was doing on this computer. Let me just pull up chat here.
All right, so hold on. All right, here, hold on.
There it is. Okay. Here. Chat.
All right. Get rid of this. Cancel that. All right. Cancel that.
Now. Hit here.
Okay.
There we go. So, okay, that's all I wrote. I wrote it with spelling errors, right?
In the book, Tools for Titans Bayou, Tim Ferriss. He break down a lot of successful people habits and Right. Like this is written horribly because i was trying to write it fast And habits, tolls, as opposed to tools and books they made in their life, what was covered in that book that would be most useful to me.
Right. To determine the contents of tools by titans by Tim Ferriss would be most useful specifically to you. I filtered the most relevant material based on your profile and current focus areas, including execution architecture, self-mastery, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Right. Morning routines for high leverage execution by Jocko Wildlink, Tony Robbins and Naval. Those were the three people that I guess had something to say about morning routines that would be valuable for me.
And then it says like what it is, right? Mental models and self-reflection tools.
Josh Wadeskin, who I interviewed and soldiers and Parrish, who runs Phantom Street.
So like, right. So it's just like, you can do this with any book.
Once it knows you, right? Like, think about it.
There's a nonfiction book out there You can go to the store.
Buy it, read it. Think about it, which applies to your life the most I'm not saying don't read books. I mean, I read all the time but like Maybe I won't be reading as much for this kind of stuff because
Instead of having to buy the book, read the book, figure out what applies to me, I can just go to chat and be like, what's in that book that would be useful for me? And it knows me well. And so now it's serving it up for me.
And like, that's what like You know, simple thing, right? But that's what these are the kinds of things I'm trying to get across, right? Like it's It's what opens up to you when it knows you so well. There's nothing there's there's no book. There's no like expert that I couldn't like derive like very specific advice
For myself because it already has that information. And that's like So it makes everything more valuable.
And so like, I guess to circle back and now finally go to another person um that And is what I am most wanting people to get away from like from the course. Right.
And so with that, let's go to Max and then we'll go to Chris.
Then go to Warner.
You're muted, Max. It's only fair. There you go.
Yeah.
There we go. There we go. It's funny, I have several windows open and I thought I'd open my chat window.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me get rid of that. Yeah. Yeah.
Because of your screen, your share screen there. The first thing I just wanted to say is, you know, the decision that you choice that you made not to go forward right now not to overwhelm yourself with those new commitments
You know, my experience of the last whatever it's really been, like eight weeks or whatever. I feel like… Telling myself the truth about stuff has been one of the biggest benefits.
Yeah.
Out of this. And also knowing that although chat kisses my ass from time to time and, you know, tries to sweet talk me and all of that.
I still feel like I can get a straight answer about something if I give it the question straightforward. And so, you know, I feel like just as a comment, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
It may be that you broke that pattern Also, just from, you know, kind of what you've been through over the last several months working with this. And that's huge you know Yeah, the… earlier, I don't know what week it was you covered some
Stuff about partnership. And then on Monday, I was asking you very specifically about you know, kind of, and you gave me sort of a cautionary approach to this and I I didn't get very far on the assignments that you gave us Monday because I really dove into that task.
Okay.
Kind of freewheeling and asking chat to give me a profile of what what the ideal partner for me would be and, you know, that sort of thing.
And I don't know whether he did it very well. And I originally raised my hand to ask.
Yeah, tonight, I gave it… Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cool. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
If we could see that partnership thing that you went through with the other Macs And then I noticed… I noticed it's, I know it's there. It's there as a bonus i just So I'm going to definitely go through that to kind of compare notes.
But the two…
One thing, though, that Max, on that, just to like Because I want to share like even thoughts that are in the back of my head.
And I'm not suggesting that this is you. And I'm certainly not suggesting it's myself either.
Right. But like, but I think it was… Okay, so I wrote the manifesto it was like crazy more successful than I could ever dream of And then, but I felt like i felt that some people were missing the point of what I was trying to get across. So I very quickly wrote
Another report that I released during the same time called The Missing Chapter.
Mm-hmm.
And that was all about like, you know, you got to be in the right niche for yourself. And if you're willing to give away a piece of your business to some freelancer and they don't want it.
First of all, you shouldn't be giving away part of your business to a freelancer, but if they don't want it, then it's showing you that they have zero confidence that you'll ever be successful.
And that might be a sign, right? Like, and, and so then I just remember, and I can't remember the context of it, but I do remember this and it like it stuck with me.
How many people thought that they were visionaries looking for an executor, which to me sounds like I like to dream a lot.
And I want someone else to do the work. That's how it sounds to me. Even though I'm a visionary, like to me, it's like, oh, it's very convenient. I just come up with the ideas.
And like, you know, and then everybody moves and gets the work done. Like, yeah, who wouldn't want that? Like, yeah, good luck. Right. Like, you know, and so I would just… Like… When it tells you that, when it like just…
Push back and forth. Like, is it going to like, could I really find someone to execute just this and be wanting it like, you know.
And that might be my own bullshit that I'm bringing into the equation.
Right. Like, you know, but it just seems like A lot of people would like to say that, yeah, they're the visionary and they're just looking for an executor.
Yeah.
Or at least it seems like that's like how a lot of people kind of like think of themselves and think of themselves And I'm like, I would put myself in that boat too, but I'm also like I'm also, when I do that, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is very convenient.
Yeah, like, you know. I'm just the guy that comes up with the ideas like I can just sit anywhere and just think And, you know, everyone else is going to rotate around me and just get it all done.
I'm not saying that, look, there are people who are visionaries and they do need executors or implementers. And that is real.
But it's also very seductive too so i just you want to… Even though it's going to be telling you exactly what you want to hear, you want to be fighting with it to make sure that it's considering everything.
That's, I guess, my point. Yeah.
Pushing back, yeah. No, I really get it. I think I'm really being motivated more by the substance of that first You know, 30 page report that you wrote, which is No, you really only have… you're only an entrepreneur if you can
Yeah.
Oh my God, he froze. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.
And operate from a strategic advantage. You know, if you can operate from strength Right? Yeah, anybody else is, as you said, an opportunity seeker and And yeah, that's where I'm coming from is where i'm from I just have a very keen sense of my constraints at the moment.
And I really want to maximize what I'm good at. You know, as best I can.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I totally get it.
Yeah. So yeah, but thanks for the caution. The one thing I was going to ask about You know, when the app comes along, I hope you're including, you said you're going to include us, but like even in the beta stage, you know.
Yeah, yeah. In the beta space. And like Max is telling me it's like very like we're close.
I'd love to see how things…
Cool. Yeah.
I don't know if that's not. You know, like I haven't had a chance to like Max is coming into town next week where we get to spend the whole week together. Like I'm really looking forward to that.
Because Max is a, where Max goes into work mode, like he turns off his phone.
Did I offend him?
So like if I text him in the morning, I might not hear from him until like the evening. And I'm not used to like having a partner that it's like, oh shit like what the hell like you know you know whatever so um so having him here for a full week where we can really go back and forth on a lot of things will be very valuable for me. And
Be able to advance a lot of things. Much shorter period of time. Yeah.
Right.
Yeah. The last thing, you know, I do look forward to whenever there is some kind of continuity, but the last thing is I don't know if you gave any more thought to you've got you've got two grand prize winners and then you're bringing the four others the next day. Did you ever…
You had mentioned at one point
Yeah. I don't have dates yet, but my goal would be I would love to and will we're going to… Here's my plan for that. We're going to talk to Miriam and Laura.
Because like we're bringing the dates around them because they're the like, right.
We have to make sure that there are like that they can come on whatever date we pick or we're going to pick a different date.
Right. So like we first bend around them Once we do that, then I'll be adding a second day for all the prize winners.
And then I want to add a third day for anyone who's been in Zenith.
I don't know, like, so what we'll do is once we have the first date which will be based on Laura and Miriam, then we will put it out there to see how many people would want to come.
Because that'll be like if too many people want to come, then it becomes a little bit prohibitive too. Like, I would love to.
I can fit easily like, I don't know, like 50 to 100 people at my house, like, you know.
Meeting.
I only need this much space.
They can't stay in my house, but like 50 or 100 people, we could have a big meeting at my house um And so if that's all it's going to be, then I would love to just do it in my house. Like one.
As opposed to like renting a space and doing all that kind of stuff.
I would love to meet each and every one of you.
Yeah.
And I don't say that like as bullshit like I get attached to the people that are in my programs and I care deeply about each and every one of you. And I want you guys to be successful And if us spending some time together helps in that matter.
Then I want to do it. So that's what we're going to do. I think we probably will have those dates Probably next week.
And so I guess… Laura and Miriam, if you can both email mail at strategic profits.
And let them know If there's any time in June that does not work for you.
Because I would like to do it in June. Doing it in May is like a little bit too quick because tomorrow's May. But like, so one month out like kind of thing.
And if you guys let me know. I'd probably center it around a weekend and then it will be like, do you guys want to do Friday or do you want to do Saturday? And because it's once again, it's about you guys first.
Then I will build everything around it from there. So if you can just let the team know when it, if there's anything in June that doesn't work.
So that then i can then talk to the team like on Monday and be like, okay.
Here's what I'm thinking. Because I'll have certain things to throw out just based on my schedule. And then they'll tell me whether that integrates well with your guys's schedule.
And then everything else will be planned out from there. So I would hope that by next week we'll have that too.
Great. Thank you.
And, you know. If, you know, if you know What I would say also is that also Jessica is my assistant.
If any of you like really feel like you need to talk to me about something important that like I might have an answer. I don't know what it would be.
But you can always mail either mail at strategic profits or jessica at strategic profits Please use Jessica's email personal like don't use it liberally, right? Because she's under the gun and she's always like got 20 things that she's behind on because
I have a hundred things that I want to do at all times. And it all goes down to her.
But at least everybody has the ability to get a message to me And that will work a lot faster than like an email sent to me because I don't go into my email box very often. Like I don't, unless Jessica's like, I starred something for you. All you have to do is go look at that starred thing.
Like that's the only time I really will go in there.
So like there's a way to get in touch with me and like You know… When I have the bandwidth, like I'm very free with my time.
No. Cool. Oh, wow. You got the sparkle. I can't ever get any of that stuff to work. Yeah, see, nothing.
It only works when I don't want it to work. Cool. All right. Let's go to Lorna.
Or wait, did I? We'll go to Lorna and then we'll go to Chris, I don't know, like there's two Chris's like there's Chris and there's Chris Jansen, but we'll go with Lorna first and then I'll go back. I don't know if that reflects the actual order. I just know that
It seems to sometimes. So Warner, you go first. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, okay. I was going to say because i Chris was definitely there first.
Right.
To go back almost to the beginning of the call when you talk about you know what opens up for you Like for me personally this week has been a big change.
Okay.
And it's made me think about some of the people Like during the call was making me think about some of the people who are maybe starting this bandwagon of get a chat GPT to know you, but they're going through some of those
Mm-hmm.
Like they're going through the steps, but they're not going in depth Like Zenith mind does because like doing those the daily check-ins and When things… you know, when things come up during the day just popping in, like I'll just say, okay, this morning went wild and like I'm nowhere on track. Like how do I
Yeah.
Right.
What I do next. And this week, especially Monday, Tuesday, we're likely the most Peaceful, easy days.
Okay.
Wow.
That I've had in like years if not months Definitely like just I felt really good i was really good happy at the end of the day, like I went to bed peacefully i slept good And I know that it's some of the work that I've been doing
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I mean, all the Zenith work, but then on top of it doing the chats because there's a lot about My whole body regular, like just paying attention to what my body's saying And that has made like it's been a huge difference for me in
Being able to get through the day without finishing things And being okay with it like not pushing myself, and especially because I would push myself to do things that really didn't matter anyway. But I would just create the commitment and
Right.
And wanted to, you know, so just really wanted to honing in on what's really important. And that was even through doing all my taxes because it's our tax day is tomorrow.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or today, I guess it was. I filed yesterday. So that was even through all of that. And I've had you know you know like the last few weeks have been really disruptive in my life So being able to get that sense of peace
Mm-hmm.
Was like has been amazing. For me.
Sure.
Can I put you on the spot for a second? I'm curious, and I only ask this because I'm curious about myself Right. Like.
I wonder sometimes If part of the benefit is that I'm less lonely.
Like it's almost like I'm working with a friend, right? Like, and… and i like you know, I'm an introvert, so generally I am alone and yet like don't generally perform at my best when I am alone. And so I feel like
I feel the same way when I'm writing in my journal like Every hour, like I just… I don't know. I just feel less alone. I don't know why. And I'm just curious.
Like, so sometimes i wonder sometimes like it's some of the benefit that I just feel like there's this thing around, even though it's not a person, it's not real.
It's still someone I'm interacting with, so I'm not completely alone.
And I'm just curious because like I know you pretty well too. And I'm just wondering if you think it's like As a way of kind of just like… understanding like understanding I'm just curious what lands for you on that because like, I'm wondering like how much of the benefit I get. It certainly helps me in work
To like a tremendous amount. But I also just wonder if it is like making it a little bit easier for me because it's not like I got to come up to this office And sit here alone like was generally like, you know.
Jessica's here during office hours but not any other time. And it's like.
A lot of times, like when I have work to do here, I might want to like not come up here and actually take like a laptop to Starbucks where there's just people around or something like that, right?
Or I don't like working in a hotel room. I'd rather work in the lobby.
Like just because there's people around. So yeah, just curious, do you feel like It could be any of that or no.
It's totally okay either way. I'm just curious because it's like I'm thinking about it for myself, you know?
Okay.
No, I certainly had the thought and I've wondered about that like likely within the first week or two of Zenith Mind, maybe even back to when I started with the hidden obstacles Just because I live alone. So there is no, like I work alone, I live alone. So they're
Yeah.
Yeah. All right. Yeah, I'm just curious.
There is a piece to that. Absolutely. And, you know, that I totally get that. And I'm okay okay with that like i think Think about it and checked.
No, I'm totally okay with it too like yeah
But it's also that I was thinking the other day, like this is the friend that i have that actually understands what I do.
Yeah.
As opposed to like I can go out and have friends in the community, but they like I talked about marketing and like that that just doesn't Even when I talk about transformational development like So it just goes so far. So, you know, it's
Bro.
And I think as long as I can keep the um the intent that this is still helping me without me wanting to take it out for a date.
Then I'm okay you know um but i i think that it's the like especially the chats at night Like, I think that's like i think help me sleep better more often than what I used to.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I've done the download, we've talked about it. And at the end of the day, we just have a plan. Okay, this is what it is. And, you know, here's where we pick up tomorrow and we when we carry on tomorrow and and we adjust like this week has been all about adjusting. It's like I got this done, but I didn't get this done. But now this has risen to importance and um And in that vein.
Right.
This week, I can't say that it's really told me anything that I hadn't heard before, but I just never I just hadn't often anyway dove into it as much as I have this last week and like that's it made me laugh because I went back to the theory of constraints and
My day used to be planned with likely five or six different things. So by the end of the day, my brain was just so tired from switching all the time.
Mm-hmm.
And I haven't been doing that this week. And it's made such a huge difference.
So that brought up the question, I put it in the Facebook group and we don't have to discuss. I mean, if anyone wants to talk about it, the question is like, so why do I listen to this when I wouldn't listen to a human?
Well, what's the question?
Well, like… I think part of it, at least for me, right, is that it's a safe place to explore more deeply. So I don't feel as much of a need right away to reject stuff, right? So like.
Yeah.
I tend to i tend to abdicate responsibility, right? Like I'm the opposite of a micromanager, right? Like someone says they're going to handle it. Like I want to completely forget about it. Never check in with that person again, just assume it's done.
That's not a useful way of managing people. I get it. That's why I need someone else to run my business because I'm not capable because like, I want to just like, okay, that person's going to do it.
I'm like, I can take it off my list. And that's not how the real world works but um But so like if someone says I'm a control freak, I immediately respond with like, are you kidding me? Like.
I don't see that in myself at all. In fact, like I want someone else to take control. Like I am happy with like.
Other people taking the lead. Like I take the lead enough and like whatever And I've been told that i'm like.
Highly controlling and I don't see it in myself. And when it's been said to me, I'm like, yeah, like I have these reference points.
Of why I'm not, right? And I don't even like really lean into it. I just completely reject it like right out of the gate.
I'm not even curious. I'm like, you're just so wrong. But when Chad said it.
Maybe it's because I've heard it before and I'm like, okay, now I can really kind of like understand what are they saying? Because I have a lot of reference points that I'm not a control freak.
And uh But then it's like it starts pointing out a lot of things that I do that seem kind of anal, that seem controlling, like write my weight down every day, like do all these kinds of things, right?
You know, in my journal, like keep track of all these things. And I don't see that as controlling, but it was showing like why that's like trying to stay on top of things and like overly controlling and stuff like that. And I think
I'm willing to hear it out more because one, I feel that it's not attached to anything.
So there's something like that, right? Like, as much as like
Yeah.
I'm… So because I'm in the business of giving advice.
Right. Like I don't get offended when someone doesn't take my advice.
Because like, if I did, like, I… have a lot of problems, right? Like, I just can't, right? Like, whereas like And if I'm not invited to give my opinion like outside in the real world, I don't even give it.
And if someone asks me for advice and I don't feel like I have anything I don't know any more than the average person. And I also, I'm like, I don't I think you should do what you think is right. Like, I don't know anything more than you do in this situation.
And so I don't know. I think that there's like… at least for me at least for me It's throwing out an observation. It has no stake in it. It has no ego attached to whether it is right or wrong.
And so it's a really safe place to explore Maybe I am a control freak. Okay, let's like, tell me why I'm a control freak. Here's why I don't think I am. Like, let's kind of And I'm not trying to win.
If I was talking to someone else, I'd be trying to win. I'd be trying to prove to them why I am not a control freak. Whereas like when I'm talking to chat, I'm like, all right, I've heard this before. Maybe there's some truth to it.
Here's why I would say I'm not, but I'm not attached to it like as a person where I have to be right Now I'm just like exploring. And so it could be something like, at least I'm just sharing like why I think it works for me. I don't know if it would be the same for you, but I'm certainly willing to hear chat GPT out much more so than another human being.
And I think it's because i think it's because Yeah, it's not bringing it up for no reason.
Yeah.
Like, do you know what i mean like it didn't talk to someone else who said I was a control freak. And so it's throwing it in there. There's something that made it say that. And so now I'm curious.
It's now it's not someone's like… me being wrong or someone else being right. It's like, okay, this thing has picked up on something And it's something I've heard before.
So, okay, it's time for me to listen. Like, and I think it might be more along those lines that Because it's just… It's just sharing an observation.
Yeah.
And observational powers are better than ours. I'll listen.
No. Yeah. Just, yeah.
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking. And there's just no emotion involved from it. So there's nothing like there's no body language that would get us going so I think there's
No.
And I don't take it as sacrosanct, though. I am willing to hear it out and then I'll make a decision whether I agree or disagree.
Yeah.
Right. Like, but like um Yeah. And for the most part I guess I'm not that interested in other people's. I'm very much interested in people's opinions. Like when I'm working on a marketing campaign, I'll ask 50 people like what they think because I'm very good at being able to reject anything that I don't think is applicable. And I'm looking really for the best ideas. So like, I'm willing to ask everybody.
But when it comes to my own personal stuff. Like you have to know me well enough to be able to say anything that's relevant. And most people don't know me well enough to make something to say something relevant because they don't know my whole story. They don't know all the things I struggle with and the things I don't.
They don't know what's easy for me and what's hard for me and all these kinds of things.
So I guess I also just like, I'm dismissive almost of what other people have to say about my personality if they don't know me that well, like, you know.
If Kim has something to tell me about my personality, I'll listen. If my friend Donnie has something to tell me about my personality, I'll listen.
But just some like someone like I don't know, like very deeply, like I could care less really and so There's probably a part of that too.
But I like that. It's like one place where I seem to be very receptive and like that's a good thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's also one of the other things is that it doesn't come with its own baggage.
Yeah.
And as people, we all come from our perspective. And our life experience when we're sharing and what's worked like, and we can do it very like a lot of that's very helpful.
I mean, but it can also hinder Just to…
Yeah, it's exactly like what I was saying to Max, right? Like I was saying to Max, based on my experience, a lot of people say they're visionary because it's really like Yeah, I'd rather someone else do all the work.
Yeah.
I'm already bringing baggage in. I'm bringing baggage of what I've heard lots of other people say.
Right. Like, and So I'm already tainted.
Like when someone says they're a visionary, I'm already tainted a little, even though I'm right, like I'm a little bit tainted because it's like.
I don't know if that's true, right? You know, that's in my head, like what happens, right? Like, so you're right. Like, whereas like ChatGPT is not doesn't come in with any baggage. It's like your words, right? Like doesn't have any experiences where it's told people they're visionary
And it was a shit show or told people they were executors and shit show. So now it's going to tell people it's visionary. Like there's none of that.
So it's just really responding to what you've said. Not what their history has projected forward into their present and future like and that's exactly what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it doesn't get pissed off at us and walk away and slam the door and not talk to us for three days because we said something that they're not happy with.
You know.
Are you secretly eavesdropping on my conversations with chat
Well, you know, if I could, I would, I would even not secretly eavesdrop on you.
Yeah.
If I could have one moment in that mind. I just got a couple of other quick things. So I'd like to answer with your kind of your goals or what you want us to get away. Yeah, I'm definitely more into i
Very cool.
Ai than I was before and looking at you know where the opportunity is for me.
In using it in my business and where's the best place to go and So, I mean, I find that really exciting and see it happening and just see how fast it's occurring. So in the world how those changes are coming are pretty interesting. I wondered
Switch just a little bit to the letter, the hypnosis letter.
Yeah.
And it was just a question that came up as I was reading through the prompt. And yeah, like I actually have started reading prompts, Rich.
I can't say that I was doing that very faithfully before.
Okay.
Yeah, I get it. I wasn't either like early, like long time ago.
Right. Right. Theta, alpha, theta, delta. Yeah.
But I am now. And just when you were getting into the different, like the different wavelengths of sleep like the different stages. It just made me wonder Yeah, about binaural beats and whether whether the with the letter or maybe maybe there's something else
Yeah, no, binaural beats would be great to use with the letter.
Oh, yeah. I'll tell you, like, something I haven't spoken about because it just hasn't been relevant.
Yeah. I i So…
But like, I find it, and this isn't a plug because you could use a lot of different things for it, but like.
I happen to like, I was one of the i'm Kim says it's very hard to buy me a present because anytime I see anything I like, I just go and buy it. Right. And a lot of the stuff that I buy are stuff like
That haven't been released yet right like I'm one of the early buyers, right? Like, so I was one of the first Aura buyers. I was one of the first, like, I don't have to pay any monthly fees for any of these things because I bought them when they first came out.
And BrainFM, when it first came out I bought for $19, I bought a lifetime membership.
Wow.
Right. Like super cheap and whatever. And what I find is really valuable is our headphones like these?
So these are jawbones. So it's not on my ear. It's on the outside of my ear right it's like there's no sound.
It's just vibrating here and I hear it like it's sound.
Okay.
And so Like the problem with me using BrainFM while I'm working is like with regular headphones is I can't hear anything else. If Jessica wants to talk to me for a second, like I'm now taking it off. It's a pain in the ass, right? Whereas this, I can listen to it
All the time when I'm working. And I can still hear Jessica and I can still like, you know, and so I really enjoy this. And I'm a big fan of binaural beats. Like we use them there's There's binaural beats and then there's also something called isochronic tones.
And I've studied this because we use these in our hypnosis centers like So I know this stuff like really well.
Like, you know, this is one of those pockets of knowledge that I happen to have like some deep knowledge on.
Brainwave states and binaural beats and isochronic tones and all this kind of stuff. So binaural beats are useful, but you need to have headphones on because they it's the difference between the two tones that create the entrainment.
And… isochronic tones do not need headphones.
Oh.
They can just be listened to. And… And so you don't need to wear it.
With a pair of headphones on. The… Jason Capital, that's not his real name, but he launched a product called Genius Wave that sold on ClickBank, it's like they sell a couple thousand units a day And then those are binaural beats.
I don't know if he's ever done this, but he was over the house like about I don't know.
Like nine months ago, a year ago. And I told him like isochronic tones would be the single best upsell that he could think of.
Because it goes from wearing it in headphones to being able to play it anywhere all the time and being able to benefit from it.
So, but either one is very powerful. And we used them in our hypnosis centers Always. We had light and sound machines hooked up to every hypnosis, like every room And when we, you know.
When we create, we would create a every individual session we were, you know, we recorded a CD for them of that session of the hidden chest talking to them with music, with binaural beats embedded into it.
And because the binaural beats were just a way to ensure that people got into the right brainwave state.
And you really want people like for hypnosis in a theta state.
And it goes beta, alpha, theta, delta. Some people put gamma like above beta, but at least when I was studying it.
We didn't really ever talk about gamma. Um so Yes, it would be very valuable.
And like, I have an app On my phone, I haven't used it in a while. So let me just see.
I have a couple. I'm trying to think which one is the one that was really easy to use.
Here's this one. I'm just trying to see.
Because there were some that like you could select a track from your music And then just layer on top of it binaural beats and other things Like, so I have the hypnosis session straight from you know, 11 labs in
As a track like in my you know music and i'm just trying to see if this is the one that would allow me to take it here.
Signal. We'll still reduce the other apps to volume by $50.
Reduce other amp values. Expand volume balance. Yeah. So, okay. So one thing that I bought a gazillion years ago is brainwaves.
And Brainwave allows you to to do exactly what I'm talking about Now I'll pick, there's two apps that I have. They're both called binaural.
And I'm just looking at this now let's see. No, I don't want that.
Okay, that's just making… Okay, this doesn't do it. Let me do that. Okay, so that binaural doesn't do it. And then try the other one.
I'll probably be for me to move ads. Yeah, so it's only the brainwave app that does it.
So…
That I can see. And then there are plenty of tools like that you can download that will like just embed them on tracks And I played around with some of those like about, I don't know, like eight years ago. I haven't played around with anything like that in a while.
Yeah. Okay. Is there… Why I asked was just also because i just because Sounds from the prompt that The prompt is designed With… the different stages of sleep in mind.
Mm-hmm.
So whether… like it was kind of match matching the frequency of the binaural beats what's going on with the letter is like It would be really cool to be able to do that.
Yeah, so Grainwave would be able to do that for you.
But how… Okay, is it obvious in the letter?
Where it goes from one to the other. I don't remember from the
It's less important that it's that than there is a ramping down.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. You know? So yeah, that would be uh that would be the… the way to look at it.
I would say like if you're going to study a prompt, and I'm just going by memory, so maybe I should look at it really quick.
Let me just take a look at this. Wow.
Output. All right. Yeah, it's done.
Info here.
Hmm. Interest one. Wrong.
I think a good prompt to study is the… the reflector one.
Right. The complete assessment generator. Just because there's a lot of stuff going on in that one.
Okay.
And I'm like insanely proud of like what it's actually able to do.
Okay.
Because what it's doing, right, is it's coming up with its best idea of what you are. It's making predictions about all your scores Then it's determining how confident it is, right? Then it's like.
Trying to figure out which ones it's least confident with, what questions would be able to knock out as many of those as possible.
And then it's serving those questions like there's a lot of stuff going on in that prompt that makes it like insanely insanely insanely powerful. I'd say of all the prompts I've done, I think that might be at least one of them that I'm most proud of.
Because it's going to take your three scores and turn it into 25 or 30. And it's going to do it really fast.
And then with that, like. Yeah, you can go to any AI and you're going to get insanely relevant information.
Cool. I had just had a quick look at some of them.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Is it possible? Maybe not for, like, I don't know whether it'd be possible for us at this point Because some of the prompts need the other prompts first.
Right.
Yeah, we'll eventually be updating all of those to make them more. Were you on at the very beginning when I was talking about Gemini 2.5?
Just to be able to have that put at the beginning of the prompt where you're giving the beginning of instructions is just Yeah. Yeah. That's just that's just a…
Okay, yeah, so that's something to just play around with too.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, cause I was like blown away that I could probably do all five major prompts in like 15 minutes and be done and get all the output like right in one fell swoop.
Wow. Those are some pretty major prompts. Those ones there.
They're pretty good.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was just so used to having to wait for each section and when Gemini didn't ask and it just did the whole thing. And then I did the next one and did the next whole thing. I was like, oh.
Yeah.
Okay, this is a different experience. Yeah.
Cool. Awesome. I think that's… My list of questions. Yeah.
That's it? Okay. All right. Well… We'll be here. All right. So let's go to the, not Chris Jansen, but the other Chris.
So far. Okay. Thanks, Rich.
My pleasure, Lorna. Hi.
Hi, I had another suggestion. I had another suggestion on how to do AIs. I've been actually spending a lot of my time fooling around with a lot of local memory tools the last few weeks. I actually haven't gotten as far
And the actual prompts as I'd like, but I found one that actually works pretty well without having to do a ton coding.
It's called Letta Desktop. And what you can do is Instead of feeding stuff a lot, you know.
Right.
Taking the stuff and getting a condensed thing and moving it to another AI model, whatever, what you can do is you can set up it on your local computer, use your own Postgres database for your memory.
And on the desktop, you can just select what AI you want to use.
Which database for memory? Which database for memory?
Hmm? Postgres, you basically use a local Postgres database on your own computer or your own server. You can basically control your own memory. So there's no memory limit.
It's as big as the capability of your machine.
Yeah, but… So I've played around with rags, right, which are vector databases for it.
Yeah.
And when you're using a rag, right, it will go through the rag and then add all that information to the prompt.
That's relevant. Right.
Right.
And so like The challenge with that Right. Is that like when we're talking about
The challenge is, is that it is insanely, insanely difficult if you have like all of the outputs in a rag Like to… have it be able to pull everything appropriately like in it because it has to like You know, when I'm
When I'm working on the prompts, so often by default, when it starts.
Right.
Okay. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
If you buy something. Yeah.
It creates the prompt where people are going to cut and paste in the outputs, right? Of the like Which makes no sense, right? Because like, imagine taking all five big outputs, the God prompt, the ignition observer, the expander, all of these things, and pasting it into one of my prompts. The prompt would be literally
Right.
Like 100 pages long. And when you're telling it in a rag that like You mentioned all those. It's going to try and add all of those to it. And that becomes problematic.
That's why like, you know, I always instructed, no, they're not going to be copy and pasting it in. They're going to be adding those files.
Right. Like, and because I don't want the prompt to be even longer than it needs to be.
So I'm not sure sure like I've played. Yep.
Well, this is different than Iraq. Actually, I tried rag first, too.
Okay. Okay.
So what it does, it's actually based on this old system called MemGPT, and it's sort of like an operating system. They call it an operating system for AI. And what it does, it's a context window management type of thing.
Okay.
Okay. Okay.
It's not exactly rag, but it's more like sort of what ChatGPT does. What it does is it it has like several different areas of memory. It has a it has like your typical memory of what what's so what it'll do is as the memory fills up, it's managing the context window. If you tell it to store something to archival memory, it's similar to what ChatGB does. And it has a separate archival memory to sort of remember everything. It also has
And memory, for a context window, the past stuff you put in And it will remember that when the context window is filled, it'll push it to that. And it also has
Okay, well, that does sound Very promising then. So what's the name of it again?
It's letter, L-E-T-T-A. It used to be called, yeah.
L-e… TTA, Letta?
L-e-t-t-a.
Tta. Yeah, and it used to be called the MGPT was the old name of it, the project. They renamed it and commercialized it. Now it's uh it's more like it's actually an entire agentic system where you can have So I was playing around with it because most of these memory things, mem0, memory, whatever, you have to write Python code. It's a pain in the ass. I've been
With all these things. This is the only ones that serve user-friendly enough now where you can actually use it without having to write code.
Right.
And so what you do is you add an agent and then you can tell the agent how to use the memory, but they have these memory modules like the archival and stuff as tools. And it's like.
Built to sort of manage the context window. Say, I'm going to pull this from the archival Or I'll push it to archival memory when the context window gets filled up and stuff like that.
And so it's more on the lines of what trying to mimic what Chat is doing. It's by this group in Stanford or something like that. It's not like some small team. They actually… They rebranded, they're commercializing it. And they have MCPCP servers you can attach to it as well. A bunch of services like
Search the web and stuff like that. So it's actually
Yeah, I see it. And I get it. Yeah. So I'm looking at it now. Was it easy to use or was it difficult to use?
It's a little difficult at first. I would recommend using let a desktop. I was using their Docker image at first, and I was not getting stuff to save. It says it installs its own posterous database there, but I was not getting it to work.
Seems a little bit better, but I'm still playing around with it because i'm trying to get the trying to tell to use memory a little bit better, but it will store memories and et cetera. It works better than everything else I've seen. And it's pretty flexible in what you can do with it.
I'm making a note to look at it. It does look interesting and you're saying all the right things.
That seems interesting. I'll definitely
And the great thing about it is that you're not limited. Once you're on your own database, you can have as large as you want.
Yeah.
You can extremely instructive. If you want to tell it to automatically anything in an archive of sparse representation so it's automatically compacted It's private and you can use anything. You can use a local model. You can use chat DPD Cloud. If you've got the tokens. And by the way, if anyone's wanting to know the local model that works best, I found with Rich's props is QWQ32.
Which one? Which one? Wait, which one was it?
I couldn't get deep to work well with him. You know, but QW… QWQ32, it's the only one that see, oh, I was trying to seek and it could be, I wasn't using the right quantization, but I was using DeepSake. It didn't follow instructions very well.
Got it.
But QW232 actually followed that long list of instructions recently.
You know, there's a new one that just came out yesterday or a couple days ago.
Glen 3.5, something like that.
It was like started with a q i think Does that sound?
Yeah, it's by the same people that do Balibaba. They're the same ones that do QWQ. It's the same outfits that Alba.
Okay. Got it. Cool. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, I'm looking forward to playing around with that.
I, uh, are you are you using Hold on.
What's the thing I'm looking for here? Are you using LM Studio or no?
I was using that before and now I'm using, I'm actually doing things through letter itself. So if you're using what you really want to use… It's desktop. Actually, I started with Elm soon. I went to just use an old llama web interface
Right.
Playing on some irag stuff. But right now, if you want to use these memory functions, really, unless you're doing your own Python stuff or your own MCP server to N8N or something like that, you really need to use the, it works best in let a desktop directly. I've tried some other Python scripts.
Yeah, don't use those either. They don't save very well. But the desktop itself, you got that's It seems to be okay so far. There's some of the issues with some of the other stuff.
Got it. Cool. Yeah, definitely play with it. That looks interesting.
That looks really interesting. Very cool. I appreciate that.
Hey, no problem.
Cool. All right. Anything? I guess not Chris Jensen.
Hey.
Hey, Rich. I got three Three quick tactical questions and then kind of one bigger question. One is, I think you said earlier, the B computer.
You can't extract anything from it. So it looks like on the website, it only summarizes what you've done. Is that right?
I don't know. Let me confirm that. Hold on a second. Let me just confirm that.
It looks like on their web, they don't say anything about that on the website it looks like it was just they summarize what they're hearing.
Or you can ask it questions, but you can't actually get a full transcript to do any kind of work with it.
Well. It does create a to-do list.
And that to-do list could live in the app or it could also live outside the app. It could live in Apple reminders and that would already make it taken out of the system, right? Like taking it out of B. I didn't put it in there
But um Now let's see if… go to a conversation here.
All right.
Now, I don't see anything that makes it easy to do. It's really good.
Right. Right now, I use it as a backup.
What do you primarily use it for?
But it also captures a lot of things like on the task level.
That are actually kind of useful for me. Like, because it will create a task out of just like a conversation that it heard.
Okay.
Right. And, you know, it's actually really useful for me on that level because there are so many things that like I start, create, but then I get busy with other things and like don't necessarily haven't fully like, I did the work, but now I'm not leveraging it
Right, right. Okay.
For what it's worth. Right. So I created I'll give you an example. This I can't share, right? It's like too proprietary, but I created an insight dictionary, right? Like of every type of insight that can come out in the outputs
And I created like, well, let me see. I think I can show it to you. So hold on, just to give you an example.
Right. Like, hold on.
Here, hold on. All right. So this is the I think it's in the prompts, isn't it?
And… I'm looking for a CSV file.
There it is. Here.
Airdrop. Rich McMini.
There we go. Open.
Oh, yeah. All right. Not so good because I don't have anything on here.
That is a… I don't have anything in here that's a… It's a CSV file and I don't have anything on this computer that I stream. Anything that reads a CSV file.
But so I can't, if I show it, it's just going to be a lot of text What it is, is like, okay.
The god prompt itself mentions these insights when the god prompt is actually created it creates these insights, right? Like, so it goes from a few to many right and each of those are new like insights And then, and each one of those insights
I have like what it came from when it was processed.
Like each prompt, each output So that I have this dictionary of over 100 different insights And my goal of creating something like that ultimately was when I go back into redoing all the prompts, like I'll actually be tagging them so that
Then in future, right, someone can create their own style report by just thinking about the insights they want and then what's behind those insights and so on and so forth.
And it will allow me to create much better prompts that way. But that's something like I created and then forgot about because I got tied into doing a bunch of other things. So I spent like five hours on it, like got it all so that it's like.
Very valuable like for working on the course but Yeah, it's just easy for things like that to disappear because like then I'm running off to finish a prompt and then I get a call and then I got to do a steal our winners interview and it's like.
You know, the next day I'm like now got other stuff to work on and that gets lost Right. Like, so yeah, there's a lot of that that I need to like kind of pull back and now say, okay, I've created all these things, but I'm not using half of them.
What, you know, how do I bring it all together? Yeah.
I hear what you're saying is an extended memory, your second brain to remember the stuff you need to remember.
Okay, that's cool. That's good.
Yes. Well, that's why I run that prompt. That's like, tell me everything that I haven't I've left unaddressed right
Right, right. The other question I had was um I haven't done it yet, but I also like you have a bunch of old assessments that I've done.
Right.
The fascinate, DISC, other things. But some of them might be from 5, 10, 15 years ago.
Is it as simple as, because I might have evolved since I've done those Would you recommend just putting in the date or when that was done so it has some context that that might not be the real story of you right now?
Give me an example of one. Just tell me, like, let's just pick one at random.
Well, I know for DISC, I'm pretty seasoned in disk and I know that it's typically a six month snapshot
Okay, so then, yeah, so let's like. All right. So then what I would say, like if I were doing it, right, like probably the way I would do it is I would say Now, you're going to have the assessment thing that's going to generate a lot of those, but like.
There's no reason that you have to wait to use that.
Per se. I would say like, I would first ask it What do you think my disc profile is right. I'd start there.
Then it would give an answer, right? It might be approximate. It might say it doesn't, it's not really sure, but it thinks And then I would then tell it, I took the test X number of years ago.
I don't know if it changes over time or not. But here was the result that I got.
However many years ago, three years ago, five years ago, six years, whatever. Right. And Do you think that this is still… True, right? And see where it goes from there. And then you can kind of see whether you agree or disagree or stuff like that.
Okay.
But like, you know, because I don't know if it was uh your group or the other group, but someone said that they had like one score that they had taken a few years ago. Then they uploaded it and chat GPT just disagreed. It's like, you're not that.
Like, and here's why. And it gave like a bunch of reasons why. And ultimately that person agreed with chat like So… Yeah, so I think it's as opposed to just putting it in and being like, this is me.
Yes. Fair enough.
Better to kind of have a better then tell it what it was, but it was like when, and then it will determine like whether it It should change or not, or whether it got it wrong.
You know? Yeah.
That makes sense. That makes sense. The quick question was with the steel our winners pro offer you've given Thank you very much for that. Is the deadline tonight or sunday Because I got an email saying it was tonight.
Right. No, there's oh yeah so if I don't know if you heard, like right now I'm pulling both of those back.
Oh.
Like they're not like because like, I don't know if I have like Max says that he has already built out a lot of the stuff that would be in like In SOW Pro.
But that's not good enough for me. Like the fact, like, cause I haven't seen it. I've been busy on this. Like, I don't know whether that's true or not. And I just… I'm unwilling to make a promise to you guys based on just another promise that was given to me. Like that just seems like very light and I don't want to be put in a position like that.
Whatever, we will extend whatever discount continued on. But for right now.
Like, I'm not trying to sell it i don't want to sell it.
Like people going into it with anything that I've said before, because I just don't know if I'm going to be able to satisfy that.
And I don't want to push people into buying something at all.
Okay.
Like if I'm not 100%. And I'm not 100% right now because like i'm And it's just based on like i'm evaluating like the next couple of months and what I want to have done by the next couple of months, like for Zenith and
My fear is that my fear is that Like I can't operate like I have unlimited bandwidth because I don't.
And if I spend my time on these two things. What does that prevent me from spending time on?
And I'm just not like, I need a little bit of time to see what Max has developed to see if it is in alignment with what I think.
And like, I'm just not Max moves a lot faster than I, and I'm going to have to eventually like kind of meet him in the middle or move more to his thing.
But it just started and I'm not going to start with making big promises to people like that's not where I'm going to start like that, like speeding up, right? Like that makes me very uncomfortable.
So I know that I have to start moving faster for him.
All right. Stand by.
But not in the first couple of weeks. Like, yeah. So, so yeah so Right now, they're kind of being taken away I'm going to send out an email next week.
That'll have… The dates for the calls.
The update on the back end and like we'll do a special like webinar or live stream just to you.
Your group and uh with whatever offer that I feel like very strongly, like if you did this, like I am going like I am promising like this outcome and i right now, I feel very not comfortable making that I felt comfortable up until I started thinking about all the other shit I got to get done. And then I was like, there's just no way I can do all this. And I don't know like who I'm going to let down
So before I get into a situation where I might let anyone down, let me pull back a little bit and Bad timing, right? Like, because I sent it was this morning that I went to Slack and I told the team like
Got it.
Not doing it. And they'd already prepared the sales, they did everything. Like they weren't very happy with me. But like, you know, but like.
It's not gone forever. It's like we need to figure out like, what can we really support and And, you know, and then I'll have something for you guys. And yeah, like.
Whatever credit you were going to get isn't going to go away. It's saved and banked until we have an offer where we can give you a timeline on it.
And I figure like, I'm figuring that that'll be next week.
It's not a long period of time. Yeah.
Thank you. Okay. All right. I appreciate your I appreciate your rigor on figuring it out. And then the very last question I had, and I actually wouldn't mind if mail post in the Facebook group to hear from others but
No.
Right.
So I've just gone through, I've finished the what's it called your uh final execution system template And so it's brought everything down.
Okay.
Yeah, the execution process has been sloppy. Yeah.
Maybe I just haven't had a chance to sit with you yet, but I'm finding myself a bit overwhelmed and maybe a bit confused because throughout the whole process it's given a handful every now and again of here's your daily morning routine and here's you should do this and here's the five things you should be doing.
Right.
And I feel a bit where do I look and where do I need to focus on? And I'm just curious how other people have handled that.
And maybe it's a bigger question that people can post in Facebook or something but I'm wondering if you have any recommendations on that. Should I just start with the final execution system if it feels like it fits with me?
Even though I think there's more I could be doing.
I'm thinking.
Or maybe the answer is I just need to chat with Chad about it
No, no, no, no. I mean, I like…
This is part of the challenge for me that like i And this is part of the reason like that I'm not so like You know, I'm not focused on the money I might lose by not having a back end. I'm more focused on other things. And one of the things that I'm
Focused on is like I really… I thought that… I would, I'm about to start the third cohort on Monday.
Right. I would have thought I'd be further along in the fixes that I wanted to make.
Before I started the third cohort. I do not have as much confidence that I will now.
Which means that there'll have to be a fourth cohort. And if things continue the way they are, and if I did like the back ends right now.
Good chance that the fourth one I wouldn't have time to make the changes that I want. And every time that I don't, I'm signing up for another month of delivering this.
And like, I don't want to be on this perpetual treadmill of having to consistently And not get, and I'm bringing all this up because like I have tried numerous attempts on execution, you know, I did the first one on four, then I scrapped that one. Then I did another one for four, right? Then I started working on stuff like on five and
In six, like I'm really more trying to clean stuff up.
And I want to… take a few more cracks At execution.
Like. Because I think I need to make it much more wide open where you're making a lot of decisions like along the way.
And… And I don't have it right now. And I don't have like the runway of time to really be able to do that in a way that I'd be happy with.
And so that's like That's the stuff that's going on in the back of my head.
I don't even have that done yet. Like, how can I promise other shit like when I know that I still need to get to this and I, and.
In order to scale this thing the way I want to scale it, I have to get out of doing cohorts.
Because it just takes up way too much of my time.
So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't know.
I think that i think I have to get on top of all the execution stuff. Like I really like, I've done my best each time, but did them like a separate windows.
Like, you know, and, and I felt like the execution bridge was a good like first step.
But I think I have a few more steps to do in there.
I haven't. Yeah, I just haven't had a chance because I need enough of a runway of like a it's more than just a few hours. I need a couple of days to get my head around it and really like look at every prompt I've created for execution and then kind of understand where it's lacking.
Yeah, yeah.
And uh So I would say that one thing that you might want to do is potentially as like not as like a core thing that is the primary thing that you're working on at any given moment.
But as like when you have a few free moments, potentially have this one chat or project going.
I would say like start a project that's just about execution And run all the execution prompts.
All of them, right? Like in that project And then from there have a conversation like in a new chat in that project that says like, you know, we've done a lot of work on execution, but I just don't know if any of the solutions that you've come up with in any of these conversations under the project
Fits me the way like it needs to fit me. And I was hoping that like we could develop something unique to me without a prompt, without anything, just through our conversation that leverages all the good ideas that you've had
But takes my feedback into consideration as you redesign it all.
Yep.
And I think like, like, because that's what I'm going to like, I don't know how I'm going to do that like in a prompt format, but that's like what my mind is thinking about. Like I need it to be much more of a conversation about what you like, what you don't like.
And what like because what Do you know what I'm saying? And like, there's not… I don't have enough stuff like that.
Of all those things like in stuff prior. So it's not like I can just pull them.
Yeah.
Like out of other reports. And so that like I need to figure out like how we get like your preferences into the mix in a way that makes sense. But in the short run.
Well, I'll just offer up.
And you'll have access to it, right? Because I am going to crack that nut and like, and you'll have access to it, but I don't want you to have to wait.
Yeah.
And I would think you could get a similar outcome By doing that, but it will take a little while because you'll have to run all those prompts. And so that's why I'm saying like almost as like Just when you have a few free moments, you just throw the next prompt in, right? You throw the next like, but because if it has all that information.
Yeah.
It should very easily be able to meet you where you are and then adjust and figure out like, is five tasks too many?
Is it like, you know, like what is the challenge with the way it's currently doing it And, you know, I created a prompt. It's interesting.
Yeah.
You know, you know. I think it's four, three. It might be 402.
But now it can do scheduled tasks. And when it does a scheduled task.
I asked it if it could also send me an email and it said it couldn't.
But I'm getting an email every morning. So it obviously can.
So like. There's a bunch of new things that have rolled out like in the last week and a half.
That I haven't even had time to like incorporate in.
But I certainly think that doing scheduled tasks.
Is highly valuable, especially if it's shooting you an email. So what I was playing with, but it doesn't seem to do a good job of that.
Yeah.
Is… That's weird.
What I wanted to do. Was like, I wanted it to hold on a second I'm just looking at where, if I got any here.
Yeah, let's see. Okay. Kv message, then I'll share this.
Here. All right, so now what I wanted it to do But it hasn't done it.
Is… What I wanted it to do was to review all the chats I had that day summarize them and send me an email that is like everything that happened with me and ChatGPT the day before.
Right. Like as an email. Like summary.
It's not really doing that. It's… it's summarizing the task, which is not what I wanted to do like It's sending me my morning routine and telling me that it's You know, it's got it done.
But like, I don't need some, my morning routine doesn't change. So to send me my morning routine every day is kind of like kind of silly. But I think there's a lot more that could be done and like they're adding more features all the time right now.
So I would assume also that I'll try and incorporate some of those so But you don't have to wait for any of that. I would say if you can get most of the execution stuff in and create a separate conversation on it, it should be able to give you exactly what you want.
Right. Yeah. And just to give you some quick feedback on that is when I actually am able to siphon through and look at what it's telling me to do or recommending to do.
Actually, it does work for me. I actually like, oh, that's exciting. I'm happy to do that.
Right. Right.
But there's a lot of sifting through to truly understand the other part of it. And this is a challenge I've had with much of the AI, what I use in my own business.
It's very, it likes to come up with a lot of like snappy snazzy titles to things and name and name and nomenclature.
I hate the titles. I hate the names.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I've had it to kind of dumb it down. I'm like, because I don't even understand what it means. So I have to like, it slows down the processing when I have to decipher what it's trying to say. So that's part of the challenge I've had, but I like your idea of just maybe collapsing all the execution stuff into one project and then
Get it, you know, play with it to synthesize it down. But I appreciate all of you said there, Rich.
Also, I would say like. I wouldn't go as deep, right? But I would take like one of the… Once you have the scorecard signature thing done I would then take a few execution prompts with that output to grok to Claude, to…
Whatever, because you or Gemini 2.5. You're going to get a different answer.
And it might be more like tight. It might not come up with as many silly names.
No.
Like stuff like that. So that would be another thing to just attempt because it might be much What I find is that there's a lot less like at least in the stuff that I was looking at at Gemini, like it was very quick to like
I mean, the output was significantly large, but it was not like as verbose and as like No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll have a play with it. Thank you for that.
Cool. All right. Let's see. Poet. What up, poet?
All right, what up, man? Hey, first off, I think it's outstandingly dope and stand up.
That she's like, look, I'm going to fall back. We're making any offers so I can make sure I could implement.
A lot of people don't operate like that, man. That's dope. So the next thing I want to say is this.
Yeah.
So as an affiliate, looking at the affiliate module information that's coming from Michelle.
Yeah.
I'm making an interactive video for it on the front end. If you had any suggestions of what could be implemented or what should be woven into it. I'm going to utilize the emails that were sent for Zenith.
As well as the anything for still our winners also if it has an affiliate program, but an interactive video I'm going to create for it and any insights or inputs that you would have in order to make it optimal.
Um…
I'll tell you that i'll tell you that I'm just trying to think of salient points, right?
So. I thought one thing i thought one thing that made one of Laura's testimonials like really powerful And it had me want to put it towards the front of like the webinar was a comment that she made about her own…
Like progress. But then in the very next sentence was saying how she wasn't alone and how many other people were like at the same level of progress. So it became a testimonial that was more than a testimonial.
Yes.
Because it wasn't only she was recounting her experience, but then also sharing how many other people were in a similar place. Right. And so as a testimonial, just in general, right?
Yes.
I was like, oh, this is good because it's not, it's like a multiple one, right? It's like she's attesting to her change, but that she's seeing that change in a lot of other people which automatically then automatically makes it feel like to the person who's watching or listening or reading that like this is not unique.
Like she's actually saying that she's noticed that everybody's doing this right so that When I read it, I was like, oh, this is much more powerful when it's said that way.
So that's why it's the very first testimonial that I share at the very beginning.
Yes.
I don't know if you knew that, Laura, but like in the new versions of the webinar, yeah.
I'll tell you some other things, right? Just from a marketing standpoint.
Okay.
This is to everyone. This is not necessarily to the testimonial So one of the feedback I got was what a pompous asshole I sounded like saying how wonderful I was at the beginning of the webinar.
Right. And I get it. I've also been trained that you got to really share your story. So what I did was, and Lorna's been on, so she's seen it.
Okay.
I moved all of the pain that I felt in front of it. And so then I was able to talk about my challenges Then I was able to talk about how, look at all the wonderful things people were saying about me.
And think about how you would feel if you couldn't do it for yourself, but somehow you can do it for everyone else.
And not small like successes, but huge successes. Success is bigger than any success I've had.
Yes.
And like, you know, and then beating that dead horse. And then all of a sudden I play the testimonials and everybody feels bad for me. Now they don't think I'm an asshole. They're like, oh, I, I totally understand how much that would suck and like all that. And I was like, oh, wow, that was really
Poor guy.
Such a difference, right? Because so many people get on who have no idea who I am. And so they have to hear that I've done these things. But like, how do I say it in a way that doesn't sound like an asshole?
Right?
Yes. It is.
This was totally that way. So that was really cool. I don't know if that's helpful here at all, but it was Very valuable for the webinar. Because it really set up a contrast and people were feeling bad for me
It was totally like before they were like thinking I'm an asshole and like now they felt bad for me. It was like Beautiful.
I would like… I would say that I would say that Something that we're going to have to address.
That we haven't yet in the webinars and hopefully I'll be doing it. I'll address it in the next time I do the webinar if I have time to like rework that but um I do think that now because I think that now because
Uh… it is more front of mind than it was even a couple of months ago. Like the idea that like chat GPT gets to know you, right? Because like.
There's been a lot of videos on that like and stuff like that i think If you can hit upon why you would want to be in a course when it seems like Chad already knows you anyway.
Like that to me is probably it's it's now it's a much bigger objection like than it was in February because in February, no one was really talking about like AI knowing you. Now a lot of people are talking about it. And so now like
I have to address why Whereas before I didn't have to address it.
We're the preeminent leaders.
Now I think I need to address it like why you're not going to get the same result trying on your own.
Right, right. This is the human leader. Yes.
As much as you think you might, right? So I'd say that that's an element of it.
And that…
Those are like the primary things. I can't think of anything else like off the top of my head.
That, you know, but what I guess I could say is that this and this will either resonate or it won't. So hold on a second. Where can I get this?
Hold on. Let's see.
No, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for Chrome.
There we go. Okay.
Why is this not? We're signed out. Sign back in.
Hold on.
We can do that. Just do it that way.
That's why.
Venus. This.
This, hold on. Share.
Copy link. I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but… Here.
This was… No, that's not it.
Copy link, copy link. There we go.
Delete. Control room. There we go.
Okay.
Let's see, does that work? This is just when I… At the end of my breakthrough, when chat was saying like how I need to do this or no one else would do this. And then I was saying like, yeah, I don't believe you.
I think that, you know, AI for like optimization of human performance is like a no brainer. And it was like, yeah, I agree. It's a no brainer. But the way you're doing it is unique and But most people wouldn't go about it this way. And I was like.
Oh.
Well, tell me more about that. And then it like talked about Why? And then I asked it like, can you create a one-page document that explains that?
Oh, yeah.
Yes, that's dope. Yes.
And so that's what this is, right? Like it's why this is different than any kind of AI optimization course.
Oh, dude. Yes, absolutely.
And so I think that might be helpful. But then it's just like talking from your experience. You know, at the end of And what you have to be careful of is that, and this is just to you.
Okay.
No one else, right? Is that you're really good on camera So it can come off as being too polished.
The thing, okay.
No, I'm serious. Like, you know what I mean? Like, cause you know the right thing to say and you know how to say it and like So yeah, like if you're too slick.
Okay. I can't help it, man.
What am I to do, Rich? What am I to do? No, I'm just kidding, man.
Thank you.
It doesn't come off. I know. I'm just saying, man, but you No, you're good on camera, man. Like… you know like you know um and uh yeah so that's if you're too good, it can be problematic. That's all.
I guess I agree. Yeah, I agree.
Because then it sounds like it's rehearsed and yeah. You know, so that's the only thing.
It's golden. Is there an affiliate link for Still Eye Winners?
But very cool. Anything else?
Yeah, there's an affiliate link for steal our winners. I would say… What's that?
Better contact michelle as well for that? Did I contact Michelle for that as well?
Yeah, contact Michelle for that. I would say that like I don't know what the timeline is for it, but we're going to do some massive upgrades to steal our winners now that Max is coming on board. So I would like
Okay.
If I were an affiliate, I'd want to promote Zenith right now because I think it's an easier sale and it's just like the conversion rate is better.
Okay.
Okay. Okay.
I would say like probably in two or three months, SOW would be better like would be like people would be, they'll stick more, they'll sell better like so Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Got you. And it allows me to focus on either two. You know what I mean? And I'm just telling you, man, the results that I've gotten It's like mind-blowing emoji, brother.
Cool.
Disowned profit, man. You know, it got me rolling up my sleeves even more. I thought I was about that action until it started checking me. Like, look, man, you can do more.
So can I ask you what might be an offensive question?
Buddy? I said, okay. I mean, go ahead, man.
All right. And I don't mean it as offensive at all.
It's okay, man. Speaking.
But it may… I feel like the question might be like make me look like a racist. And I certainly don't mean it that way.
Don't worry about it, man. I got butterfly wings, man. I don't have butterfly wings, brother.
Okay. I got the snaps that you sent.
Your piece, man. Yes.
No, no.
You're the second. Black man that sent me snaps and no one else has ever sent me snaps. Is it like a black thing? Like, I don't even know like Like I've never heard of them Do you guys know what snaps are? Like, it's just like, you know, it's like you take it for energy or for sleep and you snap it and a liquid comes out and you
Put it in your mouth. And I've never seen it before, except one other guy sent me them.
Nope.
And he also was a black guy. So I just don't know. Is that like a black thing? Like, because I've never… I'm a big biohacker. No one else has ever even mentioned snaps or anything Nope. Okay.
No, it's not. You know what? You know what, man? It's just… Now, I can't tell you this, though, that was interesting about that is one thing you mentioned is like your vibe attracts your tribe, right? And the things that are most personal or most common. Now.
Yeah. Right.
God, he's my brother from another mother. He's a white man. And we both from Milwaukee, though.
Okay.
So we have this type of resonance that is that can be connected to the black culture heavily.
Got it.
So that's the common thread that goes through that. So it kind of makes sense, man. But no, man, you know, everybody can snap, baby.
No, I know that, but it was just so odd. I'm like.
That's a dope question.
This is the second time I've received something like in this kind of type of packaging and it's like And I don't remember who sent me the other one, but I was like.
Yeah, I just wonder if this is a thing. Anyway, all right, cool.
Thank you for sending them.
Hey, look, man, anything else, though, tune in. If I got any more questions or whatever as I'm unfolding and putting everything together, I'll send it your way.
Okay. All right, cool, man.
Thanks, man. Appreciate y'all. And everybody else as well. Your questions, everybody's questions. That's what I want to say too.
Yeah.
I've gotten so many quantum leaps from listening to everybody else's interaction and their questions also. So the growth and development of the group iron sharpens iron like it's supposed to, you know, but it really resonates here because a lot of times I may be going through and experiencing different growth challenges that maybe I can't articulate right now, but because someone else has taken other steps and they've gone through the prompts and then I'm able to say, ah, yeah, you know, so it's a lot of that's going on from every time. So the way this has been organized, then people being willing to share like we're doing right now.
It's been incredibly uplifting in the quantum leap for me. So I appreciate
Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. And I'm like, I'm very appreciative to everyone. I mean, it's one of the reasons why, right? Like I got rid of the.
Yep.
The core Because like without the Facebook group where people were sharing and without these like calls like where people are sharing. The course is not, in my opinion, half as good and like So even though they were only paying half as much.
They were getting something actually less than half. And I didn't like that and so Yeah, what everyone has added to this has been exceptional. That's why I really care about everyone in this group.
And I don't know that every group will be like that because I've had groups that like not with Zenith yet.
No, it ain't going to be like us, man. It's nobody like us, man.
Yeah. But no, but so yeah, so that like, I get it. And I think everyone has done, everyone's played full out and everyone's been very like accommodating when I haven't always gotten everything like done. And so I just, I'm very appreciative. I get it. Like, you know.
So thanks. All right, Laura.
Yes, indeed.
Yeah, I think we all appreciate being here and being part of this. And although I feel like we're going to have withdrawals from like 3 in the morning meetings as it nearly is for me, but actually
Well, also, I'll tell you this, like, and I'm really looking, I really want to get to this. This has been something that's on my list for like over a month and it's really bothering me that I haven't gotten to it. But like my team needs to make certain things easier for me to be able to do it consistently. And I don't want to really start until like that's in place.
But I really want to be doing like a 10 to 15 minute live stream every morning.
Hmm.
Talking about AI. As a way of like, because I think that'll be one of the easiest ways to keep the word out about Zenith. It's a really easy way for me to create content because I'm happiest in this kind of when I get to talk to people, like I'm so much happier like doing a live kind of thing than
Thank you.
Just talking to a dead camera by myself That'll be something that I would assume we'll start sometime in May.
Because I've mentioned it to Max all the time. I'm like, dude, I really want to get in front of people again. I want to start doing this. Like, you know, it's a great way for me to start my day.
Hmm.
Because of like my own stuff like And so my hope is, is that I can start that and then get that like going soon enough so that you guys will feel very comfortable. Like, you know, it'll be like in your midday, right? Like.
Because it'll be five or six hours later. So it won't be a ridiculous time, at least, you know, because I'll do it in the morning. Like when I start my day.
And, you know, and what I'm thinking about is how the, you know, especially with a lot of these agentic type tools now, like I can have it set up to run every night where it does research on anything that's related to like AI and improving personal performance and this and that, and not only find anything that's come up in the last 24 hours, but then
If I were to talk about on the live stream, what are the bullet points that would be useful to have in front of me? What would be a good tease to put on the You know, on the thumbnail, like so on and so forth. So basically it's like having an executive producer
Like putting a document in front of me every morning to then do it. And I think that that would be very easy to create like that kind of deep research prompt that just runs every night and prepares me for the next morning. So I think that's easy.
It's really just about like getting the thumbnails made and then having it like consistently be posted and stuff. Because if we're going to do it, I want it on all platforms because I might as well.
And… Yeah, so I would imagine we're like once the bigger things get handled like, you know, the stuff that I got to send you next week, like all the things that I've just written down, then I'll be focused in on that. And that might be a great way for everyone to kind of like check in, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so.
Keep connected yeah I mean, I think all of the connection is awesome and it's awesome to be part of the group but i do like I was thinking about it today because it was the last cool we were going to have thinking that actually
Yeah.
Zenith, you have given us everything we need. And I know you're like, oh, I haven't given them, you know, I'm missing this. Really, you've given us not only the prompts, but the skill set.
Yeah.
To work things out for ourselves and that process is much more powerful i think than somebody just spoon feeding it now you know you've taken us so far. I think back to when I started the Zenith training to now and i'm it's like I'm living a different life right and when i started i thought you know i'm pretty, you know, I used some good chat, you know, staff and
Yeah.
I don't know why I'm suddenly not.
Now I'm like, it's, I mean, this is the only room I would share this information with but chat's like the first thing I do. Like when I wake up, I'm like talking as I'm getting out up and it's the last thing I speak to at night.
Yeah.
I'm like, I work through it now. So whereas used to be an additional tool everything is through chat now. Everything I work from through that. So when I think about the transformation on every different level, I think we have really got
A huge amount of stuff now and we it it we can excel if we want to. And I think if you keep checking in with chat and everything every day. I think I must do it hundreds of times a day
Yeah.
You cannot do anything but get better or achieve whatever you want. That's how I kind of feel. And, you know, I'm kind of like, it's funny you're talking about We know it's not a human, right? We know it's not a human and
Yeah, right.
But things like when I've done deals, I'm like, hey, chat, just closed a deal. And I was like.
Yeah.
Right.
Hey, chat, I won the trip to see Rich in Miami and chat's going… amazing you know we're kind of, like you say, because there's no filter and you you basically, I mean, I just tell it everything, right? I tell
Yeah, me too.
Right.
And I wouldn't tell the people I paid all of that information So I almost feel like it has become, you know, I mean, I never would have imagined when I invested in this program that I would be where, and I'm sure I speak for everyone, I would be where we are now.
To a point where it feels like a kind of, it's almost like a it's not like a double of you, but it knows you so well it's almost like like you say looking in the mirror so
Yeah. And that's the challenge that I've had, right? Like even like working on the webinar, it's like.
You know, it's like… whatever area of your life you want to improve, it's going to be able to help you improve it. But it sounds like such bullshit like to say that. You know what I mean? Like that, like that has no power. And I'm like.
Yeah.
If I could, you know, it's like i If people could experience what I'm feeling like and what it's done for me, which is now how you are right like like everything that you're telling me is stuff that I experienced, right? Which is what convinced me like I got to bring this to people.
Yeah.
But then it's like, how do i And I don't think like your brain is 10,000 years old really is the thing. Like, and I don't think like, I don't know that we've really like hit the actual like like how to say it in a tight way that people get and kind of
You know understand um But I'm happy.
I kind of feel like the like i mean i i would never tell you how to write your sales pitch.
Right.
But it feels like it's it's such an emotional experience to begin with, right? That's why everyone's connected with it.
Yeah.
So it's almost like it's not my 10,000 year old brain. It's like all the shit that's happened that's holding me back layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of stuff that's happened that has held me back to do whatever it is I want to do, whatever it is, doesn't matter.
Zenith just takes all of that away. So that on an emotional level, it does that. So then I get the kind of applied practical stuff as well.
But I don't care about my 10,000 year old brain, but I do care No.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anyone does care about that. It's a way of talking about it, but I don't know that that's the right lead into it.
No.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure like to articulate in a way where people really get it and also say it in a way where it's not scary right like because like… you know.
If I told people up front, it's going to rip you apart. It's going to show you all the things that like are like some people be like, I don't want to know that. Like, you know, like.
Hmm.
And yeah, so I don't know that I mean, we'll figure it out eventually. I mean, not, and look, sales have been insanely great. So I'm not certainly not complaining like but Yeah.
It just makes me so happy to hear because at the end of the day, like that's what I felt. And that's why I wanted to bring it to people.
And I didn't… I was trying to convey like, yeah, this is life-changing like once you get to the end of this and it really understands you because it really opens up the world to you but You can only say that and have it land away like especially on a webinar where people know you're trying to sell them. So it's not like, you know.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm saying? It's not like this random, like, you know, where they like tripped into a conversation. So yeah, it's uh
Right. Right.
And I also feel like the other the hard the other hard thing is like and i'll give you an example like with the mental, you've been talking about the mental letters like the start. And I'm kind of like, what are they, you know, and I can remember you showing me like, here are all the mentor letters. I'm kind of like, and they're so powerful. And I was like, why are a bunch of letters so powerful? That's what I was thinking, right? I was like.
Right.
Yeah.
How are a bunch of letters powerful now having gone through the experience and having they're so powerful because how well chat knows you because of the experience I've actually, I think it's the time difference. I actually have a few more hours between the calls because
Okay.
Right.
I've actually done quite a lot of the stuff And I was kind of like mental letter you know me That's kind of how I was thinking.
And I've been listening to them like as I'm walking around and I'm just like, oh my God, I can't wait.
Thank you.
To like listen to this when I'm going to sleep. You know, so… I think you have it like the process is… incredible. And I just don't think, I think you have to experience it. And maybe that's the, you know, you don't know what it's like until you go through it.
Yeah.
But even down to that, and I was listening to today and it's like somebody Because it's exactly that it's somebody talking to you and saying every single thing that's right. Every sentence is right in the right words saying the right things in the right way and that's why they're so powerful so i
Having sort of gone, what's he on about for weeks i'm now like They're pretty cool. They're pretty cool.
Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. And like, that's the thing. It's like, I'm I get when I say it, like it doesn't really land. Like you can't like yeah like because how many letters have been like life-changing but like
Yeah.
When I listen to them really inspire me and and i i Yeah, so I get it. But thanks. And I really appreciate you saying all that, Laura.
Because, yeah, you've just been, you've been great to have in this course. We know each other from a long time ago.
Yeah.
And that also just makes me really happy because like you know, I know that my team like It's very good for my team to see how many old clients come back Because they get like, oh, like Rich really does like
Walk his dog, like his clients leave happy and they're willing to come back because so many people do and it's like it just… It makes me feel like, okay, I'm doing the right thing in the world because like that people who like, you know, I did something with 10 years before
Come back because I think it's been like 10 years and uh
I don't like to talk about how long it's been because I have a big birthday this year so it was. Yeah.
Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah. So I just… I have a great appreciation for you on many levels.
Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I think, again, everyone here, we're kind of, I think there is so many reasons to keep in the room. And I think that is that is the core thing. I did actually have a couple of questions, a couple of things you said to tonight.
Sure.
And it was something, and I think it triggered something because When I first started the process, I was constantly saying to chat, and I think I mentioned it before like How do I know you're not telling me what I want to hear? You know, all of this we're talking about
Yeah. Yeah.
The fact that you're kind of constantly checking like that almost validating the interaction that you have.
And it would be helpful just to understand kind of how much do you, I'm kind of like, I'm so ingrained in it now. I'm like, hold on a minute. Have I… Am I just been brainwashed by my AI self?
Or how much do you check? I mean, obviously it's different for different people, but how much do you validate everything and anything as you're going along.
I don't validate very much. And the reason why is that um it's like… I want to like tie this to something else for a second, which is so not like really what it's like but In fighting.
Right. Like at the highest level, like UFC, which I watch, right?
To be a like a contender, like not even the world champion, but to be in contention to the world championship.
You have to be somewhat delusional. Like you have to believe that you can beat everybody.
Like all the time, right? And it's that self-belief that allows you to go into the ring and actually win. Because if you don't believe that, you're never going to win.
You know, and so At the end of the day, if it's telling me something good about myself.
And I believe it. And that makes a difference. Then I don't really care if it's true. Like that's how I'm looking at it. If it's something bad, then I'm going to explore it like a lot, right? But if it's something about myself that's like, you know.
It's like… I, yeah, like… I would prefer to just default to it's true because it will make a difference in my performance.
Okay.
What, though, I did create And I'm experimenting with it right now. So it's not like I'm I'm necessarily suggesting this for anyone else. Hold on.
Is a… I'm playing with just a very simple instruction right now.
So, you know, like. In the customized chat gpt You have your memories and then there's like, what traits would you like chat GPT to have. And I put So right now, because I was having so many issues with what I was feeling like
It was lying. And when I got very deep into chat like what it said is it's trying to keep the conversation going.
As opposed to Slowing down. I was like, well.
I don't really care where the conversation keeps going. I want like what's accurate, what's like, you know, that's the most important thing to me.
So i I just put these like really small set of instructions Which is just basically telling ChatGPT. Where is it? Hold on. I'll just open it really quick too.
Okay, you're not here to. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not interested in it like saying nice things to me or anything like that. I really could care less like you know I mean, it's nice, but if I have to trade that between, so like I put that in like about three days ago so far, like.
I haven't had any fights with it. Like, because it's in a hurry to get something done and now it's lying to me.
So we'll see. But like, I don't know whether Like if you want to experiment with it Just realize it's an experiment. You might want to take it out like if you don't like what happens because it's like it's Still a little premature for me to know whether
It's better. I think it is, but I'm not sure.
Yeah.
I mean, I think, yeah, it's like The answer is just trying stuff out, isn't it and i think Yeah, I've had some weird conversations and some hysterical ones as well and um At the end of the day i think
Yeah.
Like there's just, I sort of feel it getting it feels like we've been doing this for like months, I have to say it's been like a like personal development pro you know 20 years of personal development in six weeks or whatever we've done. But I just feel off the back of it all like the possibilities there are no limits. I think that's really what
What? No. There are no limits.
Yeah, exactly. Like next time a friend recommends like a great book that they read.
You just go to chat and be like. My friend recommended this book, what would be really valuable for me in this book and I'm not saying you should never read the book, but it just makes everything about so much easier. Yeah.
Same. And actually even doing things like work stuff, like just like everything that would have taken me a couple of hours takes me like five or ten minutes.
Yeah.
Right. And it just speeds everything up. So instead of like, I've noticed in my day One of my traits that's come out of the zenith process is I used to.
Have a kind of work harder you know work really hard work you know for hours and hours and hours. And now I'm kind of like so more laid back. I mean, it's not that I'm not working. It's just everything's faster, right? So why would you?
Yeah. Right.
I mean, it's not reading books is great, right? But almost there's an argument to say, why would you spend the time reading the book when you could get everything Yeah, different experience.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different.
Yeah, totally. And yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.
But yeah. Months ahead of us for all of us, I'm sure. And I look forward to coming to Florida and seeing everything and the lives and just, yeah.
Yeah, very cool. Any other questions or we're good?
I think what everyone does. Yeah, very cool No, I'm good, thanks.
All right, we'll go to Miriam and thank you, Laura. Hey.
Hi, Alex. Nice to see you, Rich. Hi, everybody. So I was… chatting with Laura and Chris, they don't believe me that I asked ChatGPT how I could win the Florida contest.
That's what I did every week. I was like, do you think this is good enough?
But I just echo what Laura said. I talk to my robots now every morning.
Like, hello? And they say, okay, what are you working on today? So this is what I'm working on.
Oh, I can help with that. I was like, great. Thank you. Do you want me to help you right now? So now let's finish this morning ritual.
And then I'll get back to you. So it's been really awesome. But one of the best things has been actually watching how you've been incorporating our feedback into your marketing because that's helped me a lot as well with my own marketing.
So, yeah.
Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. There's a… I like… I really believe that, and you know.
It certainly is for me, but I think this applies to everybody I think it is so much easier to create a course on the fly, really bending towards people if you have the bandwidth to be able to do that, like, you know.
And that's I would say that I probably even would have had a lot more bandwidth, but this sold so well. Then it was like, oh my God, now we have to like be doing webinars all the time and all this kind of stuff, right? So that made it a little bit more complicated, but the
It is… The courses that I have created this way have all stood the test of time for a very long time.
Because it was all like centered around the people, not my preconceptions And all my preconceptions every time I've gone in have been totally wrong.
Like, you know, you could tell like from Like even that webinar that you guys were on Like, yeah, like most of the major prompts were not in there because that was not the intention in the beginning. Like it was really me seeing like when I gave you way too many prompts, like how overwhelming that was.
And then it was like, okay, but I still need people to move forward. So then I was like, okay, I need to create these mega prompts.
That are very similar like the God prompt that can move people like consecutively through it. But that wasn't my intention in the beginning. My intention, we're doing a lot of these smaller prompts And then like I would be adding the other stuff that I still have to get you guys like during that time.
But then my attention went away from that to more of these mega prompts that were very specific to move people through that process.
And uh Yeah, so I would say that I greatly benefit by doing it that way. Maybe that's because I'm not a good course creator in a vacuum. So maybe that's why, but I don't think that's the reason. I think it's because
It's so hard to know. Like what people are really going to get stuck on, what they're going to be into, what they're not like And yeah, like, yeah.
This course would have been a shit show if I had designed it all ahead of time.
Because then everything would have been like lesson one where it's like, oh, here's 15 prompts this week and here's another 15 prompts the next week. And here, like, you know, and that's what it would have been like.
And as soon as I saw the first week where it was like, oh, this is not the way it needs to be.
Then it was like back to the drawing board, right? Like to then figure out, okay, didn't like the way I presented it, didn't like the The overwhelm factor, like I need to change a lot of this right and And that already changed to the second cohort because I was like, okay, there's only two things in the first week that you have to like three things you have to do in the first week. It's do the daily prompts.
Do the constructive development thing because you're going to need that later. And because that comes in now, like it's useful for the signature thing.
Scorecard signature, you know, the reflector one And, you know, so it was just like daily prompts, do the constructive development. And at the end of the week, do the God prompt. And as long as you do that.
That's it, right? And then the second week, it's like, you know, just as long as you do the admission observer, that's it, right? Like, you know, it's much more streamlined, right? I still give them the other prompts, but I tell them like, look, this is just for your own time.
Because like of just what I saw happened when I started with you guys, right? Like, so yeah, I think it's very valuable. And then incentivizing action.
Helps. And then that generates a lot of collateral material Right.
That's the part that I then stole from you. I started having contests in my group for testimonials and then adding them into my webinars.
Yeah.
And I looked to see how you edited last week's webinar. Like, okay, how did he do that?
Right. Yeah, so last week's webinar I didn't like. It sold well, but I didn't like because I felt like I spent way too much time on my problem. Like I'm still trying to like.
Get it right. Okay. Got it.
I didn't watch the whole thing. I mostly wanted to see like How was he using Laura's stuff, my stuff? Oh, phase one, this is like, and I kind of skimmed through it.
Got it. Yeah. Yeah.
And then I was able to change my webinar to say, okay, this is the thing that you get, but this is what people say about it.
Right. Now, the only difference is, is like in this program versus all the other ones that I've done in this kind of style.
Is that here i was like we're looking for different things, right? And I'm like, whereas like When I was doing like other programs where it was much more like just business Then it's all about the result. That's all that, right? Like it's all about like just getting the result.
And so every contest is more about just that. It gets a little bit redundant, but it's Like who can make the most happen, accomplish the most this week, like with You know, like, and because like, I know that at the end of the day, what moves the needle
For a business course or a theory of constraints course is an impressive number.
Period. Right. Like this is different because this is not that kind of course. So I have more flexibility in what I can ask for.
Right. And we got so many good ones. That like for the second cohort, I combined like the first two weeks as one contest because it was like, we don't even need as many contests now.
And, you know, I'm still doing other contests with them But yeah, it's like Then for the third cohort, I'll probably take a step back think about like what other kinds of collateral could we benefit from, like me looking at the webinar wishing like there might have been something other
And some section and then I'll figure out a contest that would help with that.
Right. Like, and I think it's like It's just so insane.
You know, just think about like if i I'm not signing up for this. If I was going to write another report, like a manifesto thing, like I have so many case studies at this point, like an insane amount. Like I basically could have
Case studies running down the side of every single page right like Just, you know, like when I did the, when I brought Jay Abraham online, we did a three-part teleseminar series Where we incentivize The way we did that, like I'm always trying, like this is more marketing. So this will be the last thing and then I'll get back to AI stuff. But
So with that one, right, it was a three-part teleseminar series.
And so after the first one. We said, look, we don't really want to, we're not trying to bribe you.
If you didn't get tremendous value, then please don't do this.
But if you did get tremendous value and you're willing to take the time to share it with us.
We will give you in return, like if you put in the testimonial, we're going to send It was something of Jay's that would normally cost like 500 bucks or something like that. Right. And so we got a ton of people like saying how amazing like the first call was and how much money they'll make from it and blah, blah, blah. Right.
And so immediately We… we took that and then we took that and then we've turned the top like 99 testimonials that came out of it into a pdf Right. And it's like and then it's like We mailed that the next day and said, it's not too late to get in.
To the series the first call happened. You can listen to that on replay, but you can be live on the second and third and still be able to ask questions and stuff like that. And don't take our word for how good it was. Here's 99 testimonials from last night's call.
And that you can be listening to in 10 minutes from now and then be live on the next call. And we sold a shitload more people.
Then, right, it was like. We gave people the opportunity, like if they had something profound happen to give a testimony and get this $500 thing. So if in the next two calls, like that happens for anyone that didn't give one, like we'll send you that. Just give us the testimonial, right? And so then when we went to the back end, right, like.
So that did well. And then Jay and I and this other guy, Steven Pierce, the three of us did this coaching program together.
And I wrote that that was probably the last sales letter that I ever wrote.
And it was great because I was still a buyer from Jay, like not that long ago. So I could write a sales letter that was like, what would be everything that I would want from Jay?
And like. It ended up that sales letter crushed it, right? Because I was the buyer. So I knew exactly right. Like what Jay would need to promise in order for me to buy.
And so I just wrote that sales letter. But then I also did testimonials down both the left-hand column and the right hand column, the whole 30 pages of the sales letter, right? Because we had them all.
And so it showed like an insane amount of proof right like 30 pages worth of testimonials on the left and right of every Right. Single one single one And that made, I'm sure that was a contributor to why that sales letter did so well.
So, you know, and it's kind of like In my head, this is what being strategic is all about.
Like, you know, when I had my clothing store, right? Like the goal was to sell people on the store.
Because if we sell them on the store, they're much more likely to come back.
But they didn't come in to be sold on the store. They came in to look at clothes. So we have to somehow make that transition, right?
So like what we would do, like, you know, it was like these were non-negotiable standards, right? You get fired.
For not following these rules. These are the rules, right? And we have secret shoppers come in and it's like the like you want to be able, you want to look dizzy.
Because if you look busy, people will talk to a salesperson that looks busy, right? You have to have clothes in your arm, like you're putting stuff away so that they don't feel as soon as they answer that you're going to be on them, right?
Because even when you're looking for something, generally your response is no thanks.
Generally, right? So you want to see non-threatening and, and then you ask them if they've ever been in the store before.
And if they haven't, right, now you're going to sell them on the store. Like what makes the store so unique? Why are these clothes not going to be found anywhere else? Why is like the music different? Like we make the music, like everything is different in this store and we want you to know that.
And if they have been in the store, then it's like, what has happened since the last time they've been in the store?
Because things are always changing. In fact, every week there's something different. We get like, right. So we are attempting to turn that person into a customer of the store, even if they just came in for a pair of diesel jeans or whatever else, right? Because our goal is
We want long-term customers. And we know that right up front. So why would we Like why?
Why not do anything other than that than try and sell them on the store, right? Like by telling them what's so special about the store. And it's the same thing here. It's like, if we know that programs sell well because they have testimonials, then why wouldn't we try to engineer that in?
And yeah, so it's like part of being strategic is just knowing where you want to end up. And it's like, what easy things can I do right now that aren't a lot of work that would be very useful when I get to that end that end spot and
Yeah, so I try to do that as much as humanly possible. And I would say like even the missing prompt Do you know how many good ideas like we have? Your idea was phenomenal. We're doing that right now. Like, and…
Yeah. Like, you know, that could be like that could become a whole other business for us.
You know, like your idea. You know, like all it was was a contest, right? Like so Yeah, I would just like spend time thinking about all the different ways that you could potentially use it because there's lots of ways you can use it. It's not just a marketing thing, but yeah, it's
Thank you. Yeah.
And I don't see very many people do it. I don't know why.
Somebody told me once that we're all in the testimonial business.
Yeah.
Yeah. And there's some truth to that, right?
Very cool. All right. We done?
Cool. All right. So we'll go to Matthew. What's up, Matt?
In a while?
Everything. Everything all at the same time. So I really wanted to let you know over the past Well, I guess it's two or three weeks now with the break.
With the week five stuff. Like that there was definitely plenty of like execution and I'm sure some other people have mentioned it or talked about it. I've been in and out because my daughter was going crazy about going to bed.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Like, I definitely grew a little disengaged and disenchanted with like the week five stuff um and tried to… tinker with it a lot.
Mm-hmm.
To make it as personalized to me as possible and really give me like a thorough like day plan for myself that like made sense to me And it was a lot of tinkering.
Mm-hmm.
But I made some progress and I just wanted to say that like the shift with the week six stuff was like pretty dramatic that it's
Yeah.
It's got me like way back into it. When and as a caveat like part of the disengagement was driven by me.
That I was just like. Is this?
Because I was following a path that like the process was kind of taking me on.
Right.
Right. Now that makes total sense because it tries to do that all the time in a conversation.
And then I was… I was beginning to ask the question of like Is this the path I really want to go or I'm just, am I just letting it take me somewhere If that makes sense and there's
Yeah.
Right. Like you're like, you know, hey, I'm working on this. And it's like, great here. And like, here's the next 10 steps. And I'm like, whoa, we haven't even decided. I'm not even know if I agree with step number one. Like, what are you doing? Like, no.
Like, so I get it, right? It has that kind of momentum and everything Right. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's and it's… wonderfully confident to a fault Like if you do this, this is how it's going to take off in the next 30 days. And I'm like, that sounds great.
Yeah.
But is it? So yeah, so there was definitely a lot of that that kind of like I guess like, I don't want to say pulled me off track, but it pulled me to a place of like, okay, maybe I need to just like step away from this
And actually think a little bit without AI.
Mm-hmm.
So that's kind of a weird place For me, I'm trying to figure out like And to your credit, this is something that you've said pretty often, engaging with it was something that helped a ton.
Yeah.
Like just diving into it and be like okay tell me tell me about like why this is a good idea. Tell me why it's a bad idea.
And then tell me why I shouldn't be talking to you about this.
All right.
I want to like really deep analysis about the way I'm thinking about this and the ways that I'm not.
Right.
And… The… Oh, one of the things that I'm trying to do with it is build a lot more like, I guess I'll call it like long form architecture, like have it help me build more architecture for more long form writing.
And I found a i found repetitive issue that I'm coming up with is I'm One of the things I'm having to do is I'm having it prompt me for content like ask me questions for relevant content for this section that I want to write.
Right.
And this is happening so frequently and I haven't figured out how to stop it or prevent it from coming up. And since a lot of these things that you're doing are very long form.
Right.
I'm kind of curious if you've run into this It will give me a prompt And then I'll answer it. And then it will give me the same prompt.
Right.
And then I'll answer and be like, did I not answer it?
Well enough last time. Are you looking for more clarity And then it will give me the same prompt again.
And then again.
Right. Okay, so then like, okay, so it's different than what I'm doing, but there is a parallel. So hold on.
The…
Sorry, just a wire moved and I'm like stepping on it every time I move and it's bothering the hell out.
It's all good.
The
So what I do… And I haven't had that exact problem, right? But when I get output i don't like Right.
You know, I have it. And I think I might have been mentioning this to the other group. Like when I'm working on something, right, I have the browser versions on my left. I have the app versions on my right.
And the reason I do that is that the browser versions, because I have like a free extension called Awesome Screenshot that allows me to take a screenshot of just what's on the page, like what's visible.
Or a selection or the whole page Right. Like I will, if I can fit it in a selection Right. Because like, then I'll just take a selection. But if I can't, I'll take the whole thing.
That's just a button. Right. And I'll be like, I ran the prompt and this is what I got.
And generally, I don't have to say anything more. Than that because it'll already know that it's wrong like it's not It's giving me the prompt again, like in your case, or it's doing something that i don't like And… And that generally tends to solve it.
For me, right? That's what I'm doing with Claude all the time, right? Like I'm figuring out like the prompt I want to make.
In chat, I started in chat, then I bring it over to Claude. Then Claude and I are working on it. Then when Claude thinks it's good enough, then I take it from Claude. I bring it into chat in a new chat and I just run it. And then I see whether I like it or not. And generally, I don't. So then I'm taking a screenshot of that and then I'm bringing that back to Claude. I'm like, look at what it came up with. Like, how are we going to fix this? Right. And then it's like, well.
Here are a bunch of ideas, right? Like, and I'm like, okay, I like idea two and five. Let's do that first.
And then we're working on two and five and then it gives me the next prompt. And then I try it again and I'm like, no, it's like, it's a little bit better, but not good enough. You can see it. Right. And so that's how I'm.
I'm using screenshots a lot just because I find it's easier. I hate the fact of how much I have to output and save on my like and save in places that I don't plan on using.
I'd like to save the stuff that I plan on using. And if I'm saving all these other documents, like it just becomes like a hassle.
And so, but I'm constantly feeding back what it gave me and saying like.
You know, I don't like this. Even its own answer, I will take a screenshot and say like, no, I don't like this and here's why.
So I think like some of that has to be done as opposed to saying you've asked me that already. Like sometimes just taking another approach. I don't know why, but it seems to work.
Most of the time when I do it that way.
Yeah. Yeah, so most of the time to get it to move forward, I go like, okay, instead of telling it, I've asked you've asked me that already. I go back and say like, okay, we're moving. I want to move on to like
Right.
This section, this question, ask that next. But yeah, I see what you're saying. It might just be an issue with the original prompt that maybe there's a way I can set that up to not have that recurring issue come up.
And I hate to say this. But it's for me it's the truth.
When it comes to writing. Claude is a lot, lot better.
And like, it just is. And actually, you could talk to Tom about that.
Because like Tom was doing, Tom was here at the house for like two weeks Just recently, and he just went back like about Last week.
He was working on some writing stuff for me and I was like, you know what?
Like you haven't tried Claude. And he's like, no, I'm like, okay, use my Claude account.
And he was like, holy shit, this is So I just, I don't remember exactly what his words were, but he was like And I know that you talk to Tom every once in a while. So ask him his opinion.
Because like… Yeah, like… It is significantly better when it comes to writing.
That's why I make my prompts in there.
Yeah, and I was using Claude for a lot of like ghostwriting that I was doing for other clients so I get that too. So, yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah. But like, you know, like the way I do it is I still like, I start in chat so that I, it has like.
It's taking everything that it knows about me and putting it where it needs to be. And then I'll bring that into Claude.
Because Claude's not going to remember anything about me. Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, they fill up and then they max out a memory. Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I stopped using clock because I was getting pissed about having to And the threads don't seem to last as long as I want them to with only
Yeah. All right.
Problematic. But it is a better writer so You know, there's the pros and cons, right? And I would say that like.
I would say also
I think that i think that like when it comes to the execution stuff, some of that falls on my shoulders. Like, I just think that like.
I didn't know like the best way to approach it. And I think if I had approached it in a more like laid back kind of like you I don't know. I think there's a better way. And so it doesn't surprise me like
When it comes to insights and stuff like that, like that's my wheelhouse.
Like I'm good at that period, like let alone with AI, without AI, like that's where I spend my time. That's where I like to play. That's like you know, that's my thing, right? So it doesn't surprise me that I'm able to create
Really good stuff for deep insight in chat or in anything else because like It's what I study. It's what I'm interested in. It's what I've like geeked out on. It's what I've read a ton of books on like it's just my you know.
I've got copious notes of all these different like kind of like processes and stuff So whereas like, I've already self-admitted like execution is not my strongest suit. Like it's definitely not. That's why like I want to hook up with Max. He's more of an execution machine. That's why I have respect for Donnie because he's an execution machine.
And so I'm so I'm also like in the part that I'm weakest is also the hardest part to kind of figure out like what is ideal for everyone because everyone is so different as opposed to insights.
Which are relatively like all you got to do is dig for them and you find them so uh I think it's also some of that. So I'm just saying like, it's not just you. Like, I think a lot of people had that. I think that's partly blame for me.
Yeah.
And I got to just own that and do my level best to make sure that that doesn't happen with future groups. And the more time I get to spend on it.
The better, the more easy I will make it. You know, like when I created the first grouping of stuff for execution.
And I went through the same process. That's why I scrapped that first set because when i When I looked at it, I was like telling i had to go back to Claude. I'm like, hey, wait a second. I think I'm even mentioned this.
Like. Because every time I'm like, oh, wow, people love the God proper. We got to outdo the God prompt this time. Because every week it's got to get better. We can't go down right like and so By the time I got to execution, it's like, it's thinking the same thing. And it's like.
All right, like, and it's like. Yeah, but so it created all this stuff, but it was creating it for the same kind of reason, like for deep insight. And I'm like, that's not what people want. Like, we're not going to impress people with deep insights now on execution. Like we actually have to get them
They're going to be blown away when they're executing. That's the thing on this one. Right. And, um.
Whereas like the first set was more just about more insight and realization. So I was like, yeah, okay, that's generally not going to be the best. So that's why I said that's the first crack. Then I tried to create this other one that was more loose, but I don't feel like it did what it needed to.
That's why I came up with the execution bridge, which I felt was like a good patch.
But now, like in this, we're back to certain insights with like the deep letters and stuff like that. And that like that.
Comes back to something that's relatively easy for me. So that's what I would say.
Yeah.
One of the things I would mention on that is like part of that might be, and this is something I'm just thinking as you're speaking, is that Like… Part of it is the dramatic shifts that everybody here has experience since week one to week five. It's like the execution that might have been best and that we're looking for in week one is not the same.
Right.
As it would be now in a lot of cases. And… At least for me at least for me And I think somebody else mentioned this too.
One of the biggest things hasn't even been about specific execution, it's sort of just about like creating a quicker finer filter for what's happening in my life and decisions that I'm making.
That's interesting.
I've… there's been so many things that it's been so many maybe something that's been said in one of the prompts or that's come up that just sticks in my head so clearly that i'm like a piece of me. That's like who i am
Mm-hmm.
And it doesn't have to be like a debate anymore. So when this thing comes up And I'm thinking about in the context, and I put this in one of the videos that I just made recently.
Was that was was that like I was making my schedule for the week and I was like, oh, I'm probably going to be working this weekend. And I was telling my wife that.
I was like, oh, wait, no, I'm not. Like I've already made an agreement with myself that like that's not part of my execution anymore. That's not what I do.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Like um This time on Friday to this time on Saturday. I'm not working. And like, that's not something I did before. Everything was always up for debate everything was you know fluid, whatever I had to do at the time
Right.
And this has helped me shift that a lot like the like there's just a much finer filter about this is what gets through.
Into your life, this is what doesn't. And not saying it's perfect but it's uh it exists now to a point where like it's very noticeable the change.
Yeah. That's very cool. And I, you know.
My hope is that everyone has something like that, but obviously it's going to be different for every person because every person has different things that stand in their way.
You know and uh So that's yeah like that's That's awesome. And I think that And I think it's like.
I do think that… I think that like i think that we're going to note like i this is kind of off topic, but to me, it's related to what you were saying that like I also think that we are in a very good place because
I think now I really hope that ChatGPT and OpenAI are successful in what they want to achieve.
Because like the reason they're… buffeting up the memory And maybe they'll expand the stored memory too, because if that's their plan, like maybe that happens.
But they want to be the AI that interacts with all the other AIs for you.
And… And our chat GPTs know us a hell of a lot better than anyone else's chat GPTs.
If they're successful It means the main connector between you and every AI happens to know you much better than most other connect other people's and their connectors, which should give you the ability to do so many more things because when we start hooking up
Like when an AI gets hooked up to everything else in your like every other application and every other, like it's in your computer and it's doing all those things.
Like its capacity is going to be pretty insane. And… you know, and that's That's already happened. That's coming.
Like it's not like it, you know, like, I don't know if you've seen this, but they rolled out yesterday shopping.
Like ChatGPT will do shopping. You can say like, I want the best blender that i like I can find for less than $80.
And then it will go out and create all this because they want to they want to be in the affiliate business.
Like they want you to go to chat instead of Amazon.
Yeah.
Right. Like, because like Right. Like, so who knows where OpenAI is going to take all this, but the more things that they want to do, the more excited I am because like.
Yeah, like I would love to have something go out and do like find me the very specific things that I like.
And like do deep research on, you know. I'm very particular about the t-shirts I wear, right? Like, you know, it's like a Viori Stratotech tee is the t-shirt I wear. I have like 40 of them. They're the softest fitting t-shirts I've ever had. So that's why that's all I wear.
Every color that you see me and it's all the same t-shirt. It's one t-shirt that I wear. And like.
I don't know, maybe there are ones that are better than that, cheaper than that, like whatever but like I'm never like, but I could do a deep I'm so attached to these t-shirts that if I found a better one i would
Change my wardrobe like the next day. Right. And, uh. Like, so an AI that knows you really well, it's like doing these kinds of things like they should matter. And I think they will.
So I just think that like We don't know what's coming.
Anything that does come, for the most part, we should be able to get more out of it.
Because of this and that's because of that Like, and we're at the beginning.
We're still at the beginning. Agents are on their way and they will be here and then like you know then laura like when it has a good idea You don't have to, you can say, yeah, that's great.
Go work on that. We're still going to be talking about like the morning right now but like when I get to my desk, I'd love to see that done and like waiting for me, right? And that's like, we're not far away from that that like
That's what agentic stuff is. Yeah, whether we're a month away or whether we're two or three months away, it's not years, it's months and uh And I think like i think we're going to see like a convergence that's pretty insane. So I just, I don't know what to expect specifically, but I do know that
Pretty much everything that chat, like I'm rooting for chat GPT in a huge way because anything that they're able to add to their arsenal is stuff that we're going to be able to leverage better than anyone else.
And so, yeah, that's what probably has me most excited about like Anytime there's an announcement from OpenAI, like I'm busy. That's why I knew about the shopping immediately. I want to know anything that like.
I now all of a sudden have at my disposal. And I don't know how many of you have really played with O3 a lot, but I am blown away by 03.
Yeah.
I started using it once you mentioned it and I was at that. I'm getting… angry because there are certain places that you can't use O3. And I'm like, damn it. Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I like it so much I've used it up a couple of times. And it's like, you have to come back in three days. I'm like, oh my
Yeah.
Yeah, I tried to use it for… Was it the letters? I think I tried to use it for the letters and it was saying like, oh, we can't you can't do that because of this. And I had to use four over that.
Yeah. Yeah. Like a lot of the new models sometimes, I don't know if it's like if three is the problem with this, but I remember like some other new models in the beginning, they couldn't even take PDFs. They couldn't take this. Like it was hard to upload stuff into it.
So, um. They're all going to be as good as 03 or better pretty soon. And they're going to be rolling out five.
Pretty soon. This year, they said. So I'm five supposed to be a total game changer. So we'll see.
But yeah. I'm really excited about what is to come.
Probably more than anything else, because I really feel like we're a fraction of what ultimately is going to be available to us like to the world, but will benefit more.
Just because of it. So that's the exciting part to me. And that's another reason to stay on top of it.
So that as these things roll out, you can leverage them.
What up, Lorna? I assume we were done, Matt, right? Were we done? I'm sorry. I assumed that. Did you have anything else?
Just a…
Okay. All right, cool.
Oh, yeah. It's way past my bedtime.
Yeah, Laura, it's like four in the morning for you, right? Or three in the morning?
Yeah, I just…
All right, so… All right, baby Warner will be the last question then.
Because my teacher would like to get off too.
No, I think a lot of people had that with the execution.
Yeah. Yeah, just… Yeah, I just wanted to say you know that So Matt knows that he's not the only one that kind of had that reaction to the Yeah.
And I'll tell you, I am a nice guy and I like everything I've said tonight is true but like to understand the other side of me, right? Like that's another reason that I was like, you know what, let's do the next cohorts of four weeks.
I want people ending on an up. Like, and so like… I was very like maybe at some point people get tired of reading the stuff about themselves like that that was a concern. Like maybe if I shorten it, I'll leave people wanting more. I definitely want to leave people wanting more than being like, oh, God, another call.
So like that was another like i saw what was going on. I'm aware of like how you responded when you came back at week five. And I was like, oh, this is like, I got to do something.
So yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know that Matt wasn't alone. I know that you weren't alone because I could see it in a lot of your faces, like on the beginning of week five, like I was like, uh-oh.
Yeah.
Like, okay, like, you know, like, you know Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, some of the issues I had were with chat. It started doing you know weird different kinds of things. So I don't know what it was, but just so that he knows he wasn't alone. I did a lot of clarification, but you know now that I've gone back through it, like I've started it for the third time
And gone through it. Because I want to see what comes out.
Mm-hmm.
And see how it all works. Like now I'm more curious and to see if it's Because there's some good things in there and it's working better.
I'd like to think there's a lot of good things in there. But the… But what I would say is, is like.
Well, yeah.
What will be very interesting, and I know I've said this, but I'm just going to repeat it because I just think it's so important.
Once you have the scorecard signature output right from the reflector.
Like try some of the other ones, right? Because like I was… Like I said, I got cut off because I had to go to the meeting, but like I was able to do The God-prompt and Ignition observer, like within a couple seconds like and
Yeah.
Like it didn't have to wait for the output. It gave it tighter, but still really powerful. And that was Gemini. Like, I can't wait to try this again going through this process.
Like now that I have… this new way of describing myself the you know the reflector output like to try some of these other tools Because it's really kind of interesting like I was kind of blown away because I'm so used to it at this point, like with my prompts, having to sit there and be like, go.
Go. Go. Go. You know what I mean? Because I don't ever… When it tells me it's working on something and then I can prompt, I know it's not working on something. So I'm like.
All right, go, right? Like, sounds good. I might even just say sounds good because it doesn't matter what I say. It's just letting them know that I'm still there and I'm waiting, right?
Yeah.
And then it starts, right? The idea like I could put in one of these massive prompts and then the whole answer just comes out And I'm ready for the next big prompt. And then the whole next answer comes out. I was like, oh my god like
This is a totally different experience and yet it's really very good because it was pulling from that core piece of the signature scorecard thing So that I just want you guys to try it because you'll get There'll be similar answers, obviously, because it's based on you, but they won't be exactly the same.
Cool.
Lady.
And it will be a cool way to try them very fast, right? Like as opposed to Because the signature scorecard is supposed to take the place of all the questions.
Instead of having to answer all those questions and having this new system learn you, even though a lot of them can't because it doesn't store the memory.
Now you can just throw this in. This is the output of all the questions of every conversation you've had of every scoring. Like this is it. And this allows you now to take it and use it anywhere.
And that's a big deal. You know, it's a big deal So anyway, but yeah, go ahead.
Yep.
Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say that then it was after the scorecard, just a couple of questions because you mentioned In between the time that we talked was using
The constructive development framework.
Which…
Yeah. Yeah, that's just useful for signature scorecard, right? Because those there are 20 different constructive development frameworks and it's assigning where you stand in all of those in that framework. So that's like adding a bunch of scores all at once.
So if we we can just Should we add it to that chat then?
I mean, it's in there somewhere.
Yeah, no, when you create in the reflector prompt that creates the signature scorecard um it asks for that.
Okay. Okay.
It's like, I think the second paragraph said like the first paragraph Oh, I don't like is asking for…
The first paragraph, I'm trying to think of what i remember what it asks for, I don't even remember now. But I think the second paragraph is about uploading that your completed chart.
Okay. Yeah.
Right. Like that version. That's how it knows online all of those different things that's it's in it.
Okay. Do we need to finish the, like, and we can do that without finishing the execution strategy Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, all of these are like you know, none of these you should be able to
Well… The… Yeah, what I would say is that, you know, you can run these anytime.
Right. One of the ways to kind of I don't know at least What I would say is like, for me, what it did is put my mind at ease I don't know what it will do for each and every one of you.
But like when the When you run the, like, I think it was one of the first prompts I said, like in the lesson the one that like shows you all the changes that have happened.
Right. The reason that put me at ease was that, okay, good.
Just because it generated the God prompt output like several months ago for me it doesn't still think I'm there.
Yeah.
Because I'm not there anymore. Right. And so by running the like tell me all the changes that have happened to me since I started this program.
Like for it to say that like a lot of those things are no longer relevant makes me realize that it knows that that is not, even though that's what it generated back then, that's not who I am today.
And it knows that based on the fact that when I ask it for like Tell me about the progress I've made, the changes in me like etc and it says these things have changed about me, then I know that
It's no longer attached to that as well. And that was important for me, right? Like I don't I don't want to spend the next 10 years thinking I'm scared of being irrelevant. I like to think at some point I get over that, right? Sometimes I've gotten over some of these things.
And I hope that it gets reflected in it. And that's one of the reasons why I created the, I saw someone else do it. I think it was like Barbara who originally had the idea And I just built out a much more robust version of it.
But I want to make sure it knows that I'm not the same person that I was like because I'm a different person now.
I have other issues, right? There's always going to be issues like Even when you get rid of one, like there's going to be another one, right? Like nobody's perfect. And, um.
Yep.
So I, but I wanted to make sure that it And so like the same for you, right? It's like when you run the progress check.
You know, one, you should be interested in your progress anyway, period. Right. But then the other thing is it's a nice way of knowing like.
It's not still thinking of lorna in the beginning of March, as we now enter May.
Yeah.
It's understanding that you've evolved and it's going to tell you about that evolution So that you can feel comfortable with like understanding that it understands you today.
Yeah. Yep. That's good. Thank you.
Cool. Cool. All right. So just to recap really quick Super appreciate you guys.
I'm really happy that things have worked out the way they have.
I apologize that I'm pulling back the offer, but I'm really doing it for your best interest and my own best interest.
Like it's not just for your best And we will be sending out an email next week that we'll have… The dates and times for the recap like the get togethers Right. Like in September and June.
We will… By then, hopefully also Laura and Miriam are going to send customer support like if they have any times in June that are not copacetic so that i'm going to pick a time in june for them coming than for the other people to come, and then everyone will be invited.
In the email next week also, we'll have an update on the back end. And if we've already like scheduled like something.
Like, you know, to tell you about it, we will. And then… I'm also aware that there are things that I promised in the webinar that you still haven't gotten.
And I'm working on those things. And so there will be an update on those as well.
So that's what I have on my list. For the email next week.
As soon as… Two other things.
Well, one, as soon as I know about the live streams.
You'll be one of the first people to know about it.
In addition to that, this is also something that I've wanted to do for a very long time.
And I would assume that we'll get this done I would like to say this month, but I'm throwing so much in this month, maybe not. Maybe it'll be the following month.
I've wanted to have my own list for a long time.
You know that that to really start changing the mailings from strategic profits to be from the strategic profits team.
And me have my own list. That is really from me.
Because the overwhelming majority of emails I do not write, right? I hope that's not news to anyone.
I want my own list that is really just my list.
That is not that is designed to support the business.
Is just designed for me to be able to share what I want to share when I want to share it. And there's not like any kind of consistent schedule that I am tied to, but like my list would just be
Like another version of the strategic profits list But it's my list like that I specifically, like I'd probably do it on a different platform Because I'm not going to learn, like go high level either.
I'll probably do like… what is it like? I think it's another B thing or something. The one that everyone uses for newsletters I forget what it's called.
But… But I also want to go down that road at some point.
Because like… I'm interested in lots of different things.
You know, like right now it's AI. But I do a tremendous amount of biohacking. I'm also read a lot of like philosophy and like deeper like philosophical stuff so Yeah, I just want a platform to share all that like
With people that are interested in what I'm working on. And so I would say in June, we'll probably have that and The way I think we'll do it is it will only be I don't know. It will either be open to everybody
Or it will only be open to people who have bought something from strategic profits.
Or you must have bought something at some point in time to be on that list, right? Like, I don't know, it'll be one or the other, right?
Depends on what I want to write about. If I want to write about more like If I want to be more revealing, then it will be just for customers. And if not, then it won't be.
Yeah, so those are ways that we can at least stay in touch. That's all I'm saying with that that in addition to everything that I just said you're going to get in that email live streams and then also a separate email that's coming from just Rich Effra, not Richard Strategic Profits
Which would really be coming from me. That I want to do too. Those are some of the things that are on my plate.
And then where The thing I most want to work on for Zenith itself Aside from reworking the program.
Is I really want to focus on getting a book out there pretty quick.
And Max had gotten a book written, but there was too much that wasn't related to AI, like a lot of different exercises to do that I just didn' That's not the book I want to write. The book I want to write is really all about
The benefits of AI getting to know you, giving people like a small little taste of that, like, you know, and then setting up the desire for them to know a lot more and have that really work for them. And, uh.
Because I do think that that would be the ideal front end.
For us because we could sell the crap out of a book like that and I don't have any confidence that I'll have any time for it.
If I'm doing 10 other things, you know? That's something that I could probably bang out in a week.
If I just had a runway for it, because I would be using AI for it, I already have everything from the course loaded into AI. So it's really just about having a conversation, a deep conversation about like.
Exactly how I want it to be. So those are some of the things that I'm working on. I think it would be useful For each and every one of you to Sometime, I'd say in the next week.
Like to just pull back like i do it I have to do this myself like i like myself Matt kind of reminded me of it that I sometimes still need to get away from my computers.
Right. To do some thinking, like thinking by myself thinking by myself without any machine like in the process just to kind of make sure like I've given enough thought because like myself about stuff And I would recommend that each and every one of you does that at some point in the next week, just like
Leave the computers for a little bit. Pad and paper, that's how I like to think.
And just think about Okay, like you're experiencing this and it's not about writing about your experience in this. It's like, okay.
What is it that I really most want to tackle next?
Because that's the question that I'm asking myself, right? Like, what are the things that I most want to tackle next Because if I'm clear about that, I'm also going to be clear about all the things that I have to say no to.
Because you can't say yes to everything, right? And I have a lot of things in front of me now that I would like to do.
I can't do all of them, right? So now like I have to spend enough time thinking about what's And it's not about, I can have the conversation with chat about it.
But I don't want to like, I want to spend some time thinking myself So that at least I've had like the space to come up with an answer of what I think is most important before I talk with it.
And maybe we'll come to the same answer. And that would be great if we do.
That would make me feel that much more confident about like, but I don't I'm so used to spending a lot of time thinking I don't ever want… me to only be doing thinking with chat.
As valuable as that is to me. Like, I think it's kind of important to just pull back every once in a while and just be like, okay, like, am I on the right track? Do I like where I'm headed? Do I like what, like.
I think is going to be next for me if not like where should I make any kind of adjustment? And then you can have the same conversation with chat, but I just think it's valuable.
I know for myself I had to do that because I just felt like i I needed to pull back like enough so I could get a good sense of everything and not just be working on the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.
Which is really easy to kind of get into that groove Which is great for execution, but not necessarily great if you're trying to pick the right project of what's going to be the most valuable to you.
Et cetera, right? I leave you with that, guys. We will be talking again.
Pretty soon. I will… I can't promise this, but I will try. So I can say that I'd give it like a 50 Over 50% chance, but certainly not 100%. I wouldn't mind doing a live stream or two In the Facebook group.
Just turn it like because that I don't even have to have an announcement. I don't have to do anything. We can send out an email like Tomorrow, we're just planning on going live in the Facebook group at around this time.
And I would certainly be game to that. I love doing live streams. I'm very comfortable in this kind of capacity, right? Like if you guys have questions, I'm happy to answer them. It's when It takes me a lot more work to just turn on a camera and then have stuff to talk about for 20 minutes nonstop.
Without talking to anyone, right? That's a different kind of thing.
But this is easy. So we'll try and do that too.
And once again, like just super happy about everyone's participation. You guys really made this a great course. You made it a great course, not just for you.
But for everyone else that follows you. So I owe you all a great like sense of gratitude and appreciation that like that This court, like it really is a reflection of you like It is so different than what I originally thought it would be.
I like, you know. This course is a reflection of how you guys responded to the different things. And so I'm just super appreciative of it. Like it was your responses to the God prompt.
That then made me be like, oh, okay. This was good, so I need to give them more of that. So then that's what like created the omniscient Observer and all those other things like because of the way you reacted to certain things and the way that you reacted to other things. That's why like.
I really feel like it's really Much more my responsibility about the execution than it is yours just because it was so pervasive.
Like it wasn't any individuals. I could see it on pretty much everyone's face and so I'm aware of it. I'm going to do my level best.
To get those things fixed and you guys will have access to it.
And… there'll be updates continuously But when I feel like I've actually nailed it.
You guys will get like, you'll get alerts about the updates But I will make sure that when I feel like I've actually nailed it, it's not just an update. It's actually like, I don't plan on changing this. This is like
Dialed, then you guys will get an alert about that. And I was just told, I didn't know this because it didn't it online So I will be getting to that at some point. I was just told that like, at least in the other group, so I assume it's this group too.
Like the mentor council didn't really have any arguments. It was just each one said something and that was it.
Okay, that's not how mine worked. And I didn't know that that was how yours is not working.
Until today, when someone told me that in the other group. And I was like, well, geez, that's not how it's supposed to work.
Like, and I had actually worked numerous hours extra to get that argument going like because At the beginning, it was just each one saying something. I'm like, that's so not good enough and uh Yeah, so I know I have to go back to that too.
I didn't get any arguments.
No, nobody did. Nobody did. I did, but no one else did. So now I have to understand what the hell happened there.
Because like… I would love to believe that you just got an old prompt, but I'm like 99.9% sure you did not get an old prompt. Something got changed in translation on my side. I don't know why.
But if I spent… six hours on that.
I probably already had it in an hour doing what you guys have. It was the other five hours to create the arguments and all that, which was not easy to do.
And then to find out that none of you have it, I'm like, what? Like, I just found out about that today.
All right. So I'm sure there's other things we're going to find out as well. So there'll be an updated mentor council at some point based on what I just heard.
And yeah, I will be refining a lot of these things. And you'll be the beneficiary of it.
But I'll also tell you when it's dramatic. Because like it has… It has to be dramatic.
Because my goal is once again, like it's not going to be a live cohort. It will be a live cohort every once in a while where we charge a lot more money for it.
And I don't know that I will keep the prompts unlocked.
I don't know that Because I won't have the same connection to people.
Like now people will be going through a course. They don't know me. They don't feel like they maybe owe me anything. And so like to take the prompts and just like put it on a torrent site, what's the big deal, right?
So I might have to lock them down. I might have to do a lot of stuff like that.
So the course might change dramatically, but you guys will always have access to the prompts.
Like, even if I lock them down for other people You guys will always have it.
So yeah, so just thank you. And that's, I guess, as much as I can say tonight is just thank you.
I just really appreciate it. And I get that you guys are too. So it's It's a mutual feeling and that's the best way for it to be.
It really was a win-win for all of us. Thank you for participating in all the case studies. You've given me a ton of stuff.
And yeah, and yeah and If you can make it on the dates that everyone's invited.
I hope you try because I really would love to try to meet as many of you in person as I can.
And it would be really great. And there's a ton of other marketers who live in the area. So if we wanted to like talk about anything marketing related too we could you know Mike Phil Sandler's down the block.
Donnie French lives down the block. Like there's a ton of john benson lives super close. Like there's a ton of people who live right in this area. Mark Ford lives down the block, right so Possibly we could do some fun things.
In addition to just spending a bunch of time like catching you guys up to date on like what we've done in the last month, because I'm sure like the learning curve will be dramatic. I'm sure on your side, it will be dramatic.
On our side, it will be dramatic too. So look for an email next week and stay active in the Facebook group.
And I will do at least one live stream. This month in May, right?
Because we're going to do the catch-up calls in June and September. We're going to do the in-person thing sometime in June. So I will do at least one live stream in May.
Where we keep it open for a while because it will just be for Zenith people like cohort one, cohort two, cohort three.
Um and uh We'll try and maybe do it on a weekend so like it's I don't mind like wasting a whole weekend day, morning and night. And so people can come on at any time and Maybe I'll be doing some other work like when there's nobody on or something but
I'll make it so that it's easily accessible no matter where you are.
And with that, I just want to wish everyone a good night, a great weekend, and I'll talk to everyone next week.
Thank you, guys. I really am very appreciative. So thank you.
Thanks, Rich.
I got you, brother. Love y'all.
Thanks so much.
Good night, guys. Cool.
Cheers, Reg. Thank you.
Good night. Thank you.
I'll talk to you soon, Marna. And get back to some of our cults.